Waiter on a cruise ship...
Posted on 08/18/2008 5:25:50 AM PDT by Tribune7
I was reading some of the Saddleback blogs and there seemed to be a perception by some that Obama was asked "When does life begin?" when he responded with: "I think that whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade."
He wasn't.
And this is NOT THE FIRST TIME..
Flashback - Barack Obama says will NOT run for President 2008 election because he lacks experience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj6syUD1I4U
I would love to see McCain use these clips in an ad that could be run all the way through the DNC convention. Add no commentary, Just Obama in his own words - and then at the end say, “I'm John McCain and I agree with and approve this message”.
Simple, devastating, and factcheck.com could not touch it.
Don’t worry about it. Some us make mistakes in our posts, while others, like the individual who abused you, have clearly never made a mistake in their entire lives.
Unfortunately, THEY are some of the ones most likely to be “policing” the site for the slightest mis-statement by someone else.
Have a nice day.
I need to correct myself. McCain was NOT asked “when does life begin”.
He was asked the same question about a baby’s human rights, using the same words as Obama. I should have given the Pastor more credit.
Thanks Wayne.
If he is either #1 or #2 he is not qualified to be the President.
Instead of “screaming”, you COULD post a POLITE correction to others’ errors.
Who knows, beinf NIOCE to otehr people might be one more thing you can do to “Defeat Satan”.
Wow were there ever some typos in that one!!!
anything above “pool boy” is over surfer girls’ pay grade.
Most everything is about Barry S. Obama’s paygrade.
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A Matter Of Faith And Politics - Clinton, Obama Spar At Messiah Forum
Intelligencer Journal (Lancaster, PA) - April 14, 2008
Author: Dave Pidgeon
EXCERPT
Both senators addressed the question of when life begins . Neither answered definitively.
Clinton said the potential for life begins at conception, but added that making abortion illegal would be government intrusion in the personal lives of Americans. She said she was basing her answer on what she’s seen in countries like Romania and China.
But for me, it is also not only about a potential life; it is about the other lives involved, Clinton said. And, therefore, I have concluded, after great, you know, concern and searching my own mind and heart over many years, that our task should be in this pluralistic, diverse life of ours in this nation that individuals must be entrusted to make this profound decision, because the alternative would be such an intrusion of government authority that it would be very difficult to sustain in our kind of open society.
Obama bluntly said he did not know when life began.
Is it when a cell separates? Obama said. Is it when the soul stirs?
So I don’t presume to know the answer to that question. What I know, as I’ve said before, is that there is something extraordinarily powerful about potential life and that that has a moral weight to it that we take into consideration when we’re having these debates.
Obama went on to say that sex education, especially in relation to preventing the spread of sexually transmitted diseases and teen pregnancy, should be a joining of abstinence lessons and information about contraception.
And we want to make sure that, even as we are teaching responsible sexuality and we are teaching abstinence to children, that we are also making sure that they’ve got, you know, enough understanding about contraception that they don’t end up having much more severe problems because of a dumb mistake, Obama said.
On evolution, Obama said evolution and creation, science and religion, were not incompatible.
There are those who suggest that if you have a scientific bent of mind, then somehow you should reject religion, and I fundamentally disagree with that, Obama said. In fact, the more I learn about the world, the more I know about science, the more I’m amazed about the mystery of this planet and this universe. And it strengthens my faith as opposed to weakens it.
As expected, the issue of Obama ‘s now-retired pastor in Chicago, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, came up, and Obama said that while he repudiated the controversial comments made by Wright recently highlighted by the media, there was more to the pastor and his church, the Trinity United Church of Christ.
He credited Wright with helping him in his spiritual search.
I visited that church and found the ministries that they were doing on HIV/AIDS, on prison ministries, there were a whole host of wonderful ministries that they were engaged in, Obama said. And Reverend Wright’s sermons spoke directly to the social gospel, the need to act and not just to sit in the pews.
And so I found that very attractive and ended up joining the church when I got out of law school.
Well, up until that final foolish sentence, your answer was perfectly correct and proper for a Presidential candidate (although probably phrased poorly). The President does not make legislation, the President does not interpret the Constitution, the President does not reverse earlier SCOTUS decisions, the President does not determine whether a state law ought to come under federal jurisdiction... and a President SHOULDN'T use litmus tests (other than jurisprudential competence and insightful decision-writing) to nominate Supreme Court justices (the one area where they MIGHT have some influence on the abortion debate). Of all the federal-level positions, the office of the President of the United States is the one where the abortion question is the least important. Our MSM just uses it as a way to damage presidential candidates, especially GOP candidates.
Waiter on a cruise ship...
Obama’s gay parade?
He’s running for chief law enforcement officer of the country,
he MUST declare his belief as to where the dividing line between what is legal and what is not.
He cannot be allowed to cop out on that.
When you have core principles that are not abhorrent to the public in general, you can bounce all questions off those core principles and answer.
You have to go an additional step and obfuscate when you know your core values are rejected by most decent people.
“At what point does a baby get human rights?”
is a matter of LAW. This has to have a black and white (ooo, was that racist?) bright dividing line in the law.
At the very least it was callous.
Boxer says “when the parents take it home” - on record in the Senate transcript.
You’re correct. The POTUS is “charged” with protecting our human and American rights. He must have an opinion of where that line is. He was not asked a philosophical or theological question about life. He was asked about human rights. How could anyone trust this doofus?
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