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Pakistan - President Pervez Musharraf resigns
AFP via translation | August 18, 2008

Posted on 08/18/2008 1:12:57 AM PDT by HAL9000

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To: dennisw
yup.

tick tock

81 posted on 08/18/2008 8:33:22 PM PDT by 4woodenboats ( MEJA is FUBAR DefendOurMarines.org DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Westbrook

Let me provide what I call statistical probability or the old term ‘prophet’. This is in conjunction with the Lord Jesus Christ, so flame if you wish, but some will see this here:

1) Benjamin Netanyahu will be PM again. Had this dream in late 2000. At the time I would advise Bush. That has occured indirectly through the President’s family. The peace deal with islam will be signed when Bush and Netanyahu are both in office. So begins the “end of ages” or the beginning of the great tribulation.

2) 2012, the North Star and betrayal of the peace deal. Notice the tie in’s to Shakespear describing Julias Ceasar. This is how the anti-christ shall behave:
http://astronomyspace.suite101.com/article.cfm/constant_as_the_northern_star . When I was researching, this was the first article I clicked on in several in my online searches.

Every 26,000 years the earth’s axis tilts and wobbles. It is this that is causing the recent volcanism on earth.

Others will quickly point out the Mayans and prophecies for 2012. The Mayans weren’t prophets or magic per se. The Mayans were advanced mathmeticians. I put in this link because out of all the research I have done this seems to be a more level, scientific approach in analyzing there culture: http://www.spiritualgenome.com/mayan_boomerang.htm
The Mayans point out a rift in our galaxy where evil spirits come from. They go as far as to point out the exact quadrant and year they get to earth, 2012 the year of the serpent. This is interesing and also relates to Paul of Patmos, the 92 year old last living apostle that writes the book of Revelations:

http://bible.cc/revelation/12-12.htm

So either the Mayans got shipped some scrolls in a papyrus boat or God has been trying to tell mankind to watch for this short but hugely painful correction coming to earth. Christ said of this end time there will sun, moon and stars, earthquakes, reports of nation rising against nation but the end is not yet. Interesting this scripture in Revelations is 12:12. The twelve month of 2012, December. According to prophets of old, including John, the first part of the tribulation is great financial pain. Then the war of Gog and Magog begins. This can be read in more detail at Ezekial 38. It is a regional war with several nations attacking Israel simealtanously. Islam and the supporting nation of Russia break the temporary peace.

3) The North Star centers as closer to the earth and it’s axis in 2015. North Korea attacks South Korea between 2012 and 2015 and this is the trigger and geopolitical event of WWIII. When you see the North attack the South, know that it is time to have a back-up plan for your family away from the major cities. From a colleague and friend, Ray Alguilera: http://www.prophecy.org/0167pro.htm . If you question this modern day prophet as I once did (although Christ converted me Himself, good thing He is patient!!!) then check out this:

http://www.prophecy.org/0546pro.htm . Then compare the date to the ‘Agreed Framework’ with North Korea just one month later. Jehovah seemed to know the North Koreans were not ever going to do much of anything: http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/agreedframework

Now, I met this prophet, Ray in 1998. I wanted to see if he was just another guy attempting to fleece the sheep. I went to his house when I was in San Franciso, he lives north of there. He was a gifted sculpture but his round, interesting house had an unfinished ceiling and he had surplus foods everywhere. He gave his living up (had interesting background)and health for this prophetic ministry.

For those curious, I calculated the Year of the Ram. It is the Chinese zodiac. The next Year of the Ram is in 2015. The Chinese New Year happens on different days each year. In the sixth day of the Year of the Ram will be February 25th, 2015. This is the atomic destruction of San Francisco. The Chinese zodiac symbolizes twelve year periods represented as animals. In the Google searches on the Chinese zodiac, the calender shows 2015 as the ‘Year of the Sheep’, unless you specifically Google the ‘Year of the Ram.’ This itself is interesting as John of Patmos tells us in his Revelations by Christ: “Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast... And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth… Revelation 13:11-14 . So the Dragon acts like a sheep with two horns. North Korea and China itself no doubt. I am not sure, but strongly believe Iran and the Supreme Guide is the False Prophet and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the Parrot as mentioned in Revelations.

This war escalates into WWIII and all-out nuclear attack on every major city in the United States sometime after this date. The North Star begins moving away from sight once again in 2015. Revelations seems to begin as the “end of ages” in 2012 and ends in 2020. Read Revelations 12:12-12:20. It’s interesting that John of Patmos sees victory over this enemy and a lot of people standing in what he says looks like a sea of glass. I do believe nukes detonated turn things into glass parking lots.

The end of ages is not the end of the world. It is the beginning of a 1,000 year reign of Christ. But consider the reading of Revelations and it talks about nations after this final great world war. It does not say that Christ resides in a temple on some mountain. That would indeed be very boring for a ruler of a universe! This time that occurs on earth will be very rough, but the bible says it is good news, that it is a deliverance from many thousands of years of broken genetics, wars, greed etc.

I am a business man and a simple follower of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am not special in any way. Any one here and reading this can have a relationship with the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. All are welcome to join the ‘Good Guy Network’. God is not some monarch waiting around to punish. This is a global correction and this information is meant to save lives, because He cares, not because He wishes to punish. Man has his free will and chooses poorly, this correction could be less for the United States but instead, our leadership has chosen a secular path of capitulation to islam. A big shame.

Best of wishes to all of you, I had thought of leaving the United States and heading to Costa Rica (love birds!) but the Lord Jesus Christ has compelled me to stay. We face our destiny together. Help each other out, remember Christ’s two greatest commandments:

1) Love God with whole heart (means begin and have a relationship)
2) Love your neighbor as yourself (means willing to die if needs be for your neighbor, you would save your own skin, wouldnt you?)


82 posted on 08/18/2008 10:34:27 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: shadowgovernment

The events are set in motion (variables) that cannot be undone. Once the variables combine (environment, genetics) then it is like a tumbler in a vault. The events to unfold are very, very ugly over the next decade indeed. However, this is for mankind’s benefit from broken genetics, wars, famines, greed - true liberty in other words. The USA will do what it can and will. As a nation, we will emerge victorious.


83 posted on 08/18/2008 10:42:25 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: iThinkBig

Meant to say read Revelations 12:12 to Revelation 20. Sorry, must be late -


84 posted on 08/18/2008 10:59:46 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: iThinkBig

The Mayans were idiots who didn’t even know the wheel. They just dragged stuff or burdened animals. They also engaged in massive human sacrifice which makes any of their prophecies very dubious. Do you trust what murderers have to say?


85 posted on 08/19/2008 12:55:31 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: iThinkBig
Greetings, brother.

Thanks for the synopsis of the End Times.

I, too, am a believer.

However, consider the words of Jesus concerning the End Times in Matthew 24, starting at verse 36.


86 posted on 08/19/2008 3:03:27 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: DevSix
“Whoa is us, the world is worse off, we cannot win...blah, blah, blah. “
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.........
you infer more from my post than was there..”we cannot win”
are YOUR words not mine. Perhaps the strong feelings you have are hiding YOUR own fear of not winning?
I was trying to point out that the events around the world at this time are linked(Russia cooperating with IRAN and others) and that if more areas heat up
a major war could result and we would be forced to use
Nukes as we are spread very thin..the Balkans have started more than their share of major conflicts in the past, lets hope it is different this time..but events looked planned to me, and I expect more attacks across the globe all designed to weaken the USA going into this election. Remember if OBUMA gets elected the world will view him as very very weak and unable or unwilling to take action to protect US interests..IF I were our enemies his election would be a signal to press the attack.
87 posted on 08/19/2008 4:56:06 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: JasonC

> The present PPP is not going to have a red terror in Pakistan. It is just going to give away more than the country can probably afford to the poor, and slow economic growth thereby. And in security matters they are on the side of the angels, and that matters far more in Pakistan at the present time.

I agree. And I hope that the State Dept. has been savvy enough to hedge their bets in cultivating ties outside of Musharraf — although I’m not going to hold my breath, I’ve been disappointed so much by them lately.


88 posted on 08/19/2008 7:52:05 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Westbrook

You are indeed correct Westbrook. The people of Noah’s time had ample warning, Noah warned them for 120 years of the flood. So yes, just as in the days of Noah.

The dates and analysis provided are for the ‘times and seasons’. Just as Christ warned the Jews to flee to Samaria when they saw the Roman armies encamp but withdrew. Jesus told them to leave immediately. 3 1/2 years later the Romans came and the Jews, thinking that God was in there favor yet again refused the Romans request for there surrender. And according to Josephus the terms were more then fair considering the Jews multi-year rebellion. No loss of life had to occur. But man has free will and makes his/her own choices in such matters. However, we are warned to take appropriate action in advance, that goes for all mankind, Christian or not.

We are however, to know the time(s) and seasons. There is no purpose to any prophecy otherwise to get out of the way and keep ourselves and others safe, bring those into fellowship/relationship with the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

We are not to know the final battle and specific dates of “the end” occurance. I don’t mean to split hairs, but the bible is loaded with such prophetic warnings of times and seasons and calculations so we know the general time frame. I can FR you mail many examples if you would like, but I am not here for debates, just giving the info as instructed. Best wishes to you my brother/sister in Christ!

J


89 posted on 08/19/2008 9:06:40 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: shadowgovernment

You wildly exaggerate what Bush could do given the hamstringing of him by the Treason Media and its political affiliate. You put blame in the wrong place.


90 posted on 08/19/2008 10:52:03 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: HAL9000
Pakistan will soon become a major antagonist against the West's efforts to defang and confine the militant Islamists..

By no stretch of the imagination or language will they continue for long to be considered an ally...

Much like the Palestinians — the Pakistanis have consumed far too much militant Islam fundamentalism.. Pakistan is one of the prime candidates to become the Nagasaki or Hiroshima of the 21st century........

91 posted on 08/21/2008 2:41:46 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

I don’t see the loss of Pakistan as inevitable yet. It largely depends on how their new government wants to proceed.


92 posted on 08/21/2008 3:01:55 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: arrogantsob

“You wildly exaggerate what Bush could do given the hamstringing of him by the Treason Media and its political affiliate. You put blame in the wrong place.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>...............
Bush gave the media the power, after all he was president not Dan Rather. NO the blame falls on our leaders - 6 yrs of GOP control got us more socialism not less.


93 posted on 08/22/2008 5:22:37 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: river rat

The civilian unity government collapses in a morass of bickering, backstabbing and recriminations. Another war with India in Kashmir, the traditional safety valve will be utilized at the behest of the Army.

Enter a military strongman.

Will he be deft and skillful enough as Mushie in walking the tightrope? Doubt it, Mush was a rare breed.

Then, will Jihadi oriented generals overthrow a secularist military type?


94 posted on 08/22/2008 10:53:23 AM PDT by swarthyguy (Osama Freedom Day: 2500 or so since September 11 2001! That's SIX +years, Dubya.)
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To: river rat

Pakistan is one of the prime candidates to become the Nagasaki or Hiroshima of the 21st century........
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Request Tehran be added to list.


95 posted on 08/22/2008 8:11:34 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: shadowgovernment

Bush gave the media NO power. What a dumb statement to blame him for our enemies. Nor has he empowered Socialism by standing in its path. The Socialists want SURRENDER in Iraq and HIGHER taxes and liberal Justices. Bush has fought them tooth and nail.

Apparently you are clueless as regards the structure of politics in this country.


96 posted on 08/23/2008 8:50:09 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: shadowgovernment

That list is the BS or Hysterics list. Little to do with any realities. Nice and defeatist however.


97 posted on 08/23/2008 8:55:08 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: DevSix

I would add “defeatist” to the hyperbolic nonsense description.


98 posted on 08/23/2008 8:57:43 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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