A Gay Old Time

Human Events ^ | 8/18/08 | D. R. Tucker

[MartinaMisc]

Has Ellen DeGeneres won the culture war?

It’s somewhat surprising that DeGeneres’ daytime television show has become Republican central over the past several months, with high-profile appearances by Laura Bush, Jenna Bush and John McCain. Even more surprising: the fact that DeGeneres treated both Bushes and McCain with the utmost respect, although McCain and DeGeneres had a civil disagreement over same-sex marriage.

One cannot imagine, say, Rosie O’Donnell showing any respect for McCain and the Bush ladies. DeGeneres is far more tolerant—but mere tolerance isn’t the only reason DeGeneres avoids the usual Hollywood anti-Republican shtick.

DeGeneres realizes that her show is quite popular in the red states. There’s no real reason for the show not to be: it’s fairly innocuous stuff, free of the cultural obnoxiousness and political sloganeering that afflicts shows like The View. DeGeneres is a modest, self-effacing host, not a self-loving David Letterman type. She comes across as sunny, pleasant, optimistic, all-American.

By treating Republicans with respect, DeGeneres shows respect for a key portion of her audience. She is also, in a very subtle but very effective way, breaking down cultural barriers.

As everyone knows, DeGeneres came out of the closet in 1997, and shortly thereafter had her character on the ABC sitcom Ellen do the same. Her decision set off a national firestorm, with Jerry Falwell labeling her “Ellen DeGenerate” and social conservative groups calling for a boycott of ABC’s parent company, the Walt Disney Co. In the spring of 1998, ABC decided to cancel Ellen, citing low ratings.

[Old Student]

“Should we celebrate the adulterous lifestyle?”

Why do you ask if we should celebrate this stuff? I just asked if it was worse than murder. I've still not gotten a straightforward answer, though, so I suppose y'all think murder is better.

Someone who sins, sexually or otherwise, can still choose to not sin the next time. Murder takes away ALL choices from the victim, and limits those for the murderer. Which is worse? A one-word answer should do, don't you think?

[Kramster]

It may give you some comfort to know, though, that God only allows evil to happen in order to bring a greater good out of it, like the soldier that gives up his own life defending freedom for someone else.

Yes - - - although that is hard to grasp and understand.

[beejaa]

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5424a2.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/
http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/Populations/msm.htm

We used to have less of a problem with unwanted pregnancies when we had an unwritten taboo against sex outside of marriage. That went by the wayside some 40 years ago, so we get the logical consequences of our behavior (more unwanted pregnancies, disease, marital break up, etc.). Taboos are far more effective than technology can ever be in this regard.

This is from Wikipedia under Safe Sex. It applies to anyone practicing anal sex.

Dangers of anal sex

“Unprotected anal sex is a high risk activity regardless of sexual orientation...
Anal sex is more risky than vaginal, since being very thin tissues of anus and rectum can be easily damaged during such sex activities as anal intercourse or use of anal toys. Even slight injuries can become “open gates” for various bacteria and viruses, including HIV.”

More anacdotally, here are some comments from Free Republic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1853968/posts
To: NativeNewYorker
When my brother-in-law did his ER rotation he would entertain us with descriptions of the diverse assortment of foreign objects that had to be surgically retrieved from the rectums of gay men
7 posted on 06/21/2007 8:10:04 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette
My ex-sister-in-law worked in an ER. One Saturday night they had to take a large Skippy peanut butter jar out of some guy.
Yeah, I know, it’s just one of the “complexities of their lives” I gotta understand...”
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No, I don’t hate people who behave like this. I’ve made a zillion mistakes in my life, but I also don’t participate in Mistake Pride parades or demand respect for my mistakes.

[Grizzled Bear]

On judgment day, ask the damned souls if they are comforted by the fact that you find their sins less onerous then others.

[Old Student]

Neither you nor I get to judge them. Hey, it that a beam in your eye?

[Antoninus]

It is how God made me.

It's not difficult--all you have to do is understand how they misuse the equipment God gave them to realize that whatever homosexuality is, God didn't make anyone to engage in those practices.

[Grizzled Bear]

You said...

Someone who sins, sexually or otherwise, can still choose to not sin the next time. Murder takes away ALL choices from the victim, and limits those for the murderer.

Then you said...

Neither you nor I get to judge them. Hey, it that a beam in your eye?

Do you not recognize that your posts contradict each other? Also, do you not judge one sin (murder) as a "bigger" sin than another (homosexuality)? Who has the speck and who has the plank?

Have ever read the book of James chapter 2?

8If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, "Love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing right.

9But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers.

10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

11For he who said, "Do not commit adultery," also said, "Do not murder." If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.

12Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,

13because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!

Study well and I'll tell you about how one day we will judge the Angels (if you believe what Jesus said...).

[Antoninus]

At least homos don't usually drag poor little kids into their misery.

B, I love you, but you're way off on this one. Ask your average homosexual when they had their first "gay" experience. You'll probably be shocked at the reply, if they're honest. One of the main factors in deviant sexual preference is sexual abuse at an early age.

You are a Catholic as I am. Our Church has gone through a terrible crisis with male homosexual priests abusing 12-17 year old boys. The practice is prevalent in the homosexual community at large because most of them know you can create another homosexual via grooming and recruitment. It is truly an insidious vice because homosexual acts are so vile and hideous that they are the kinds of things a person thinks God can NEVER forgive them for.

Homosexualism is a societal poison that must be confronted and resisted by all men and women of good will. The wages of sin is death. Affirming someone in their sin is not compassion.

[Antoninus]

B-Chan is right. Straights are pedophiles at higher rates than homos.

There may be more heterosexual pedophiles out there on a sheer numbers basis, but per capita, it's not even close. You'll notice there's not a North American Man-Girl Love Association out there. And I admit this is anecdotal, but I'm willing to bet if you do some research among your homosexual acquaintances (if they're honest), you'll find that practically every one of them was sexually abused at a young age. That should tell you something.

[Antoninus]

Neither you nor I get to judge them. Hey, it that a beam in your eye?

If you tell a man his sin is not a sin despite what Divine Revelation teaches, you will be held culpable on the day of reckoning.

Pray for poor sinners--especially those who are delusional enough to believe that their sin is a virtue.

[napscoordinator]

but I'm willing to bet if you do some research among your homosexual acquaintances (if they're honest),

You are very right on that one. It is a shame that they had to go through that. The problem is that these pedophiles do this, but in actuality it ruins the lives of those who actually were abused. It is actually a sad situation IMHO.

[Old Student]

“Do you not recognize that your posts contradict each other? Also, do you not judge one sin (murder) as a “bigger” sin than another (homosexuality)? Who has the speck and who has the plank?”

No, I don't recognize that. I was asking a question, not stating an answer to that question. However, you did answer my question.

“10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.”

That, as I read it, says they are equal in the Lord's eyes. Is that how you read it? If so, I have my answer.