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A Death in the Family- man kills mother, release aided by advocates for the mentally ill
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 16, 2008 | ELIZABETH BERNSTEIN and NATHAN KOPPEL

Posted on 08/17/2008 4:19:54 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen

On June 20, 2006, William Bruce approached his mother as she worked at her desk at home and struck killing blows to her head with a hatchet.

Two months earlier, William, a 24-year-old schizophrenic, had been released from Riverview Psychiatric Center in Augusta, Maine, against the recommendations of his doctors. "Very dangerous indeed for release to the community," wrote one in William's record. But the doctor's notes also show that William's release was backed by government-funded patient advocates. According to medical records, the advocates -- none of them physicians -- appear to have fought for his right to refuse treatment, to have coached him on how to answer doctors' questions and to have resisted the medical staff's efforts to contact his parents.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: govwatch; insane; liberalism; mentalhealth; mentalillness; mentally; murder
If you ever needed proof that liberalism is a mental illness, look no further. [Note: 1.If you read the end of the story it is clear that the schizophrenic who killed his mother appears to be saner and more in touch with reality than the "patient advocates" 2. The liberals take no responsibility, show no guilt or show any concern for the murdered woman, it is as if the woman's death is just a minor speed bump, as they speed along on their "holy" crusade..
1 posted on 08/17/2008 4:19:55 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen
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To: Jonah Johansen

Any “advocate” should be in a position of having to put up these dangerous people in their own home for a year.


2 posted on 08/17/2008 4:26:03 PM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Jonah Johansen

Ah, one of the advocates is a lawyer. Since her advice and advocacy has resulted in (according to the experts if the reporting is accurate) a murder and a highly likely conviction, is she not guilty of malpractice? The evidence seems clear that she did not act in the best interests of her client, removing him from the medical care he so desperately appeared to need. Just askin!


3 posted on 08/17/2008 4:26:14 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: Jonah Johansen

Sick, twisted “advocates.”


4 posted on 08/17/2008 4:34:58 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mgc1122
The advocates should be sued by the womans Estate.

Negligence.

5 posted on 08/17/2008 4:43:40 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: NonValueAdded

Typical for the liberal mentality. No matter what a person is capable of doing or has actually done, their rights are more important than the people around them.


6 posted on 08/17/2008 4:44:28 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Years ago, when mental patients were being “released” from California mental hospitals (I hate to say it, but it was at the instance of Ronald Reagan, who felt that taxpayers shouldn’t pay for their care), one of them begged the doctors not to release him. He said he felt like a “puppy on the freeway,” and he was going to kill again.

He did - he killed a young woman who was a stranger to him, and then he killed his own grandmother, barbecued parts of her on the backyard grill and ate them.

The release of the mentally ill was the result of a bizarre conjunction between loony leftist interpretation of mental illness as harmless self-expression, and short-sighted conservative thrift (but how much more was spent in health care, police services, and lost wages of dead or injured victims of the mentally ill?).

I think conservatives now realize that society is much better off with the mentally ill in institutions, but the liberals are still out there regarding mental illness as a social phenomenon caused by the evil Dick Cheney.


7 posted on 08/17/2008 4:56:51 PM PDT by livius
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I remember reading a book once, some murder mystery and the author noted “Years ago, when mental institutions closed, many were released into a madness they couldn’t control. Between Republicans who weren’t willing to pay for their upkeep and touchy feeley liberals who thought it more cruel to keep the ill locked up than allow them to murder freely...”

Or something in that line. It seemed to me to be exactly on the mark.


8 posted on 08/17/2008 5:07:21 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Jonah Johansen
Am I wrong in saying these advocates could and should be considered accomplices in this poor woman's murder?
9 posted on 08/17/2008 5:07:24 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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The PAIMI program, operated by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration with a 2008 budget of $34.8 million a year, funds protection-and-advocacy agencies in each state. Typically nonprofits, these groups sometimes receive supplemental funding from states. According to a 2007 SAMHSA report, the agencies served 19,000 people in 2006.

These organizations are not really "nonprofits." The people who work for them take home a salary, just like the phone company or department store employee. Rent gets paid, per diem, mileage, etc, just like with the phone company or department store. Typically they have only one, or at most, two "customers" who must be satisfied. Government agencies.

To call them "nonprofits" imparts a sense of being above reproach.

10 posted on 08/17/2008 5:07:26 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: mgc1122

I agree.


11 posted on 08/17/2008 5:34:13 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: phatus maximus

“Am I wrong in saying these advocates could and should be considered accomplices in this poor woman’s murder?”

It seems reasonable that there should be some liability charged to them but I don’t think there was in this case. (I could be wrong.)


12 posted on 08/17/2008 5:44:53 PM PDT by Stephanie32
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To: Jonah Johansen

I watched the video. The lisping liberals take absolutely no responsibilty for the endless evil they commit.


13 posted on 08/17/2008 5:46:14 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: livius
I think conservatives now realize that society is much better off with the mentally ill in institutions,

We are far worse off,instead of having real high standards for institutions,and severe punishment for the nurse rachet types,we just tossed the baby out with the bath water

14 posted on 08/17/2008 5:49:27 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Jonah Johansen

There comes a point that parents have to look out for their best interests and realize they have done all they can. They needed to simply refuse to allow him back into their home. It is an extremelly difficult decision to make but sometimes it has to be made.


15 posted on 08/17/2008 5:53:13 PM PDT by beandog (Quit serving me mud and telling me it's chocolate pie.)
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To: mgc1122

I happen to agree with you. If they want they want these people released than they need to be responsible for them.


16 posted on 08/17/2008 5:54:28 PM PDT by Kimmers (Liberalism: Where fun goes to die)
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To: RobinOfKingston
Rule of thumb with the happyhead do-gooders of the welfare/benefit check system: One patient/client equals ten do-nothing leeches who get their gov’t paycheck for basically standing around or attending meetings. Patient or client care is the very last thing on the list.
17 posted on 08/17/2008 6:10:29 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Jonah Johansen

The story was previously discussed at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2062906/posts .


18 posted on 08/17/2008 6:15:17 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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