Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 17 August 2008

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 17 August 2008 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, August 17th, 2008

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; former Gov. Tom Ridge, R-Pa.; Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.; White House press secretary Dana Perino.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Govs. Bobby Jindal, R-La., and Tim Kaine, D-Va.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.; Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Defense Secretary Robert Gates; former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass.; former Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Defense Secretary Robert Gates; Reps. Eric Cantor, R-Va., and Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M.; Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.

[Grunthor]

“Former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge said Sunday he thinks Republicans would accept a vice presidential candidate who supports abortion rights.”

[rodguy911]

Terrific news Star, any chance Condi and GW are behind this?

[Cedric]

Thank you for providing your insights.

And here’s the best part: I agree with you.

[Laverne]

I think its quite telling that there is not a lot of talk about the forum last night, at least thus far, on CNN. They pushed and advertised this forum for days in advance. I would have thought they would have had several segments on this topic. Given the outcome, I guess I’m not surprised they aren’t discussing it as much as I would have anticipated.

Next segment coming up on Woffie’s show has surrogates from both campaigns. We’ll see how that goes. McCain won the night last night and I bet his surrogate talks about it a lot. Woffie will denounce of course, and work to protect Obama, but we all saw it with our own eyes. It was carried on all cables plus CSPAN. I would expect it got a lot of viewers.

[BusterBear]

[Richardson] goes on to trash Bush because of Iraq and Afghanistan and how that hurt our relationship with Russia.

Come again? The Russians helped us in Afghanistan, with their contacts with the Northern Alliance, with intelligence, and looking the other way when we set up bases in Central Asia.

If he wants to go back in history, let him talk about how Clinton antagonized Russia by bombing Serbia and by expanding NATO to eastern European countries (even though the US had originally promised not to do so). And Clinton's support for the pipeline from the Caspian that by-passed Russia. Richardson should know all about that.

Then let him study Russia's long history of continually annexing Georgia.

[bray]

Andrea Mitchell is the least of our worries. Nothing more than a DC Trophy Wife with alot of dust and cobwebs. For the Oblack campaign to go to the “tipped off” play is a slam at Rick more than anybody.

First they flipped a coin and second, anybody who doesn’t think you couldn’t put headphones on him is an imbecile. They are scared cause we heard some POW stories that can melt lead as well as a quick wit that destroyed the old guy attacks.

Contrast that with the Pointy Headed Elitist contemplating navel lint and the view was black and white.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Son House]

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Defense Secretary Robert Gates;

“seems to be holding”

“no more agressive russian action going on”

“Russians still patrolling, no significant fighting going on”

“by the Russians themselves they’ve supported in the past”

“No one should try to force them”

“negotiated between Georgia and them” (Osseta)

“not by Russian military force”

“strange rhetoric coming out of Moscow nowadays”

“already facing serious consequences”

“looking at Russia through a different set of lenses”

“co hearse Russia into a relation ship with the west”

“we have not been successfully”

“strong unfired response to Russia”

G8, world trade, eluding any answer”

“Negotiate on the agenda, still on the table”

Russia “familiar behavior”

Poland “close to an agreement”

missle defence “ridicules, 10 interceptors in Poland”

“where they are placed would not let them defend against Russia”

“old song they are singing”

“loose rhetoric, unnecessary”

better get a handle on the loose rhetoric there”

“Putins word and actions”

“I’m not sure that happened”

“look like he’s still in control”

“that’s my view”

“likely hood of a confrontation with the Russians very small”

“tone of the relation ship has change”

“these actions in Georgia are an aberration not symptomatic”

[rodguy911]

Thanks Morgan!
Fantastic thread! We will here much more of this.

[rodguy911]

I predicted that the DBM would totally ignore his victory last night (not too tough to figure out) and if they did acknowledge it they would spin the hell out of it. They did, and we will set them straight as we always do.

[SE Mom]

Holbrook did indeed say these things- and he was very forceful about it as well.

To contrast- we now have Weasley Clark on FOX basically blaming Georgia..calling on his experience in the Balkans as the basis for his (cough-cough) expertise.

I’m still amazed at the way Holbrook spoke- and you could tell he meant it- he was- dare I say- sincere.

[Polybius]

Lincoln and Churchill initially suffered military defeat after military defeat and, by being Great Communicators, kept up the morale of the Home Front until final Victory. ..... George W. Bush, from the very beginning, was given spectacular military victories on a scale unprecedented in military history and, by an utter lack of an ability to communicate effectively, has allowed the morale of the Home Front to sink so low that the American Home Front might very well vote for a unilateral U.S. surrender next November in a war that, by any historical measure, has already been decisively won. .... Because of his inability to communicate as a effective leader should, History will rank George W. Bush as a mediocre leader, at best. .... Polybius

President Bush will go down in history very well. ..... Morgan in Denver

History looks at the bottom line and, as I wrote, the bottom line is that, in November, the war may very well be lost at the ballot box.

History will look back upon spectacular battlefield victories coupled with a Home Front so demoralized that, according to the current polls, approximately 50% of the voters are seriously considering voting for a man that has promised surrender.

That is a CATASTROPHIC failure of leadership in a war leader.

If the war is lost at the ballot box next November, Bush's inability to communicate and inspire the American Home Front will be remembered as one of the greatest failures in the history of war. If McCain wins, Bush will remembered as the man who tried to do the right thing but required another man to get the job done.

Up until late in 2006, Bush opposed the Surge that McCain was championing. The war should have been wrapped up long ago.

Bush said the first thing he wanted to do was bring dignity of the office of the presidency back to the White House. He did that.

Well, not having fellatio performed on you in the Oval Office should be considered a minimum requirement for Presidential decorum and not something to brag about. In the Dignity Department, Clinton was a very easy act to follow.

The initial war against terrorism, first in Afghanistan and then Iraq were spectacular accomplishments Bush will get credit for. Winning in Iraq, ......

"Winning in Iraq"?

You are completely missing the point.

The war is not yet "won". The war in Iraq may very well be LOST in November's Presidenbtial election because George W. Bush has allowed the morale of the America Home Front to sink lower than whale scat at the bottom of the ocean.

As I wrote:

"George W. Bush, from the very beginning, was given spectacular military victories on a scale unprecedented in military history and, by an utter lack of an ability to communicate effectively, has allowed the morale of the Home Front to sink so low that the American Home Front might very well vote for a unilateral U.S. surrender next November in a war that, by any historical measure, has already been decisively won."

In the end, what matters in History is not who wins or loses the battles but who, in the end, wins or loses the war.

The last thing we need in America is bragging rights about another war where we won every battle on the battlefield but lost the war at the Home Front.

[rodguy911]

The jury is out on all that and once again it all depends on who writes the history books doesn't it.

From my perspective this is a time to get real positive about our leaders, not to tear them down, but then that's just me.

[bray]

Shouldn't Sean Penn be heading there to be a Human Shield. After all, his Commierades would never shoot him.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[SE Mom]

WOW- that is AMAZING. Go Merkel! Plus I have to give her a LOT of credit for not letting Barry speak from the Brandenburg Gate :)

[Son House]

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Reps. Eric Cantor, R-Va., and Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.;

Cantor:
economic plans

CNN lost the satellite signal, might not be a conspiracy./s

Van Holler:

abortion

“not sure what Obama position is”

“states have the right, other states should respect”

“open area not settled”

.
on tax increases

“not on someone who earns less than 250,000’

paraphrased ‘pay capitol gains tax if income is $250,0000 under would not pay’

“renewable energy, gotta break our addiction to oil”

“objectives of obama is clean green alternatives”

.
Blitzer is stuttering, must be hero envy

[Cedric]

"not too tough to figure out"

Good point.

[rodguy911]

I think pootie is:
50% HItler
50% george soros.
Worst dictator to cme along in a while.
Plus he undoubtedly has the kgb everywhere.

[bray]

But then you don’t suffer from BDS like so many here do. Just cause people post here don’t assume they aren’t Rats in Elephant clothing.

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Morgan in Denver]

I understand what you wrote and I understand your position.

I disagree with your prediction but history will determine which of us is correct. I’m comfortable waiting a few years to see what historians write.

[unique]

Sounds right to me - BO is a conflicted person with at least two different agendas needing maintenance, one more or less secret and the other a far left leaning agenda with an occasionally bone for the right. He was in a situation that makes one feel very conflicted, especially if one has not lived through or at least thought through all the issues that could come up.

We all know what to do in November.