Posted on 08/16/2008 7:58:17 PM PDT by motoman
I would have put his real birth certificate on his "fight the smears website" and ended the story and further speculation.
How do you counter what went on in 2004.
If the facts are not on your side you do what they are doing now and not answer the charges and slime the messenger. But in the long run that isn't an effective strategy since the issues are still out there.
Obviously, it's the latter. His actual birth certificate probably contains a good deal more information and was produced with the technology then available. For instance, mine includes the doctor's signature and ages and occupations of my parents. The address of the Office of Vital Records contains a zone number instead of a zipcode. And, remember, they didn't have laser printers in 1961.
He is concealing something that he knows is damaging to his campaign. Either evidence of dual citizenship, place of birth, or both.It would have to be place of birth. Dual citizenship is not a bar to the presidency.
He's also concealing his real COLB becauise it has him listed as Barry Soetoro and his father as Loplo Soetoro,He's already written about being adopted in Indonesia by Soetoro. What's to hide?
The pertinent questions are "Where and how has he used this new name, like to secure a passport to Pakistan.Using his Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan is not a problem in the least. Here is a quote from the State Department's note on dual citizenship.
Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship.
It is more valid than his dangerous belifs, maybe will disqualify him completely
Supreme
Court better get ready to rule on this one
Please link to the actual quote by the State of Hawaii official.Here is the quote.
"They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate," Okubo said. "They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous."Some other quotes from the story.
Some skeptics point to the lack of an official state seal on the birth certificate posted on the Obama campaign Web site.But seals often are placed on the back of the birth certificate, Okubo said, "and whether it shows through depends on how much force was put into it."
Others wonder why a large black rectangle appears next to the words, "CERTIFICATE NO."
"The thing that's redacted is just our file number," she said. "Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system."
For instance, mine includes the doctor's signature and ages and occupations of my parents.I love the copy I have of my original. It has a nice, neat little box to be checked if the child was legitimate. I was by the way. lol
The last statement I read basically indicated that she (Ms. Mikobu) stated that she could not comment “either way” as to the authenticity of the COLB posted on the Obama campaign site.
Here you are:
Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries "to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions," she said."They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate," [Health Department spokewoman Janice] Okubo said. "They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous."
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That's less than a formal, positive affirmation that Obama's COLB is true. But if it's fraudulent, don't you think Ms Okubo would keep her pie hole shut instead of labeling the controversy ridiculous?
Yeah, mine has that, too, with a capital X typed beside "Yes".
I do not read books written by lunatics.
Additionally, she was not indirectly defending any BC on file with the state of Hawaii. She conspicuously left that point of debate centered on what Obama, himself, posted on his own campaign website. What she called ridiculous was the challenge to the alleged fake document, not what is on file.
She cleverly maintained a neutral position, for the safety of her own job. And I would too, if I cared about my job.
The Black Helicopters of the World Government are coming to your house tonight and they are going to abduct you. Load you guns and be ready to fight this foreign invasion. (extreme sarcasm).
CLINTON: Are you cold in here, or just happy to see me?
Additionally, she was not indirectly defending any BC on file with the state of Hawaii. She conspicuously left that point of debate centered on what Obama, himself, posted on his own campaign website. What she called ridiculous was the challenge to the alleged fake document, not what is on file.
If you were in her position, and you knew the BC was false, would you label concerns about it ridiculous? Or would you stick strictly to the law and maintain you are not authorized to comment on its authenticity and let the legal process take its course?
After what she said, if the BC were to turn out to be false, she and the State of Hawaii would be guilty of aiding and abetting the fraud.
Bump. Go read the TexasDarlin' website. They are HRC supporters and have been pushing this issue hard. Last week, they started blaming things on "Republican Operatives."
Let MRC lift her own shovel on this one. There's plenty of time after the nomination to make this stick if we have to and it if turns out to have any substance.
If it was not fraudulent, and, she had 1st hand knowledge of this, she could have done a hell of a lot better than she did to at least imply she had a grasp of the cold, hard, facts.
But she did not. She simply commented on the fake COLB issue on Obama’s site at face value.
Deer caught in the headlights of the camera just as she was salivating.One of the few times a camera has caught what she is thinking.
Oh the Hildebeast and all heterosexual American men have something in common: an appreciation of the nubile female form.
But somehow that does not quite make me want to vote for her.
Hidebeast looks either strongly bisexual or a stone cold lesbian in that photo.
LOL.
And she would be King?
Hillery has the pefect cover story.
"Blame McCain"
Hey that rhymes!
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