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1 posted on 08/15/2008 6:17:16 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Seems to me the whole point of going to the UN would be PRECISELY to force Russia to veto a truce resolution. The diplomats are forgetting that their purpose is not to make agreements, it’s to represent their various country’s interests.

I don’t think it’s in the interest of the free world to have any kind of UN-mandated Georgian surrender to Russia.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 6:22:12 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com)
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“We are not going to push for a vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text”

Ann Coulter’s ‘Treason’ explains one problem with the UN— founded by Soviet spy, Algar Hiss. Eric Waldheim, one of the leaders, was exposed as a Nazi and received a pension— a known nazi— after he left. Then there was ‘food-for-oil’ scandal Kofi Annon. UN officials once looted a cafeteria. Stranger than fiction.


3 posted on 08/15/2008 6:22:47 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper," The Cackling Comeback Witch aka Hillary Rod-ham [Clinton])
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To: tobyhill
At this moment it is not pathetic...sadly, it is realistic.

The Russians hold all the cards militariily and it has only been, IMHO, the couragous actions of the Presidents of Poland, Ukraine, Latvia, and Lithuania, and the strong talk and actions of president Bush using the US military for humanitarian efforts that slowed and then stopped the Russian juggernaught.

Bush has learned too late to prevent this crisis from happening, but perhaps in time to quell it, what a fool Putin took him for.

Sadly, Clintons foolish actions in Kosovo, and then Bush's equally foolish recognition of Kosovo have probably paved the way for the detaching of both provinces from Georgia, leaving her teribly open to aggression by the Russians.

We have to first stop the current onslaught and then rearm Georgia, admit her (and the Ukraine) into NATO, and then provide NATO or US bases there as a trip against further Russian ambitions.

I believe we can do that and should do that. I hope and pray we will do that...the Georgians, their quest for freedom, and their loayalty to us deserve it.

4 posted on 08/15/2008 6:23:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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I am so tired of wasting time and money on this useless organization of thieves and kleptocrats.


5 posted on 08/15/2008 6:24:06 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: tobyhill

I am so tired of wasting time and money on this useless organization of thieves and kleptocrats.


6 posted on 08/15/2008 6:24:06 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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can US "Diplomats" get anymore pathetic?

Probably not. Then again, this is a story from Agence France-Presse.

7 posted on 08/15/2008 6:26:53 PM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of “right of the people” and “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?)
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Is AFP an AP article? I saw that Russia had siezed a large supply of US weapons in Georgia, but don’t know if I can post an “AFP” article.

Here is the link.
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080815%5cACQDJON200808150606DOWJONESDJONLINE000377.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=Russia%20Seizes%20Arsenal%20Of%20US%20Weapons%20In%20Georgia%20-%20Military

Thank you


8 posted on 08/15/2008 6:27:10 PM PDT by autumnraine
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“Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end (can US “Diplomats” get anymore pathetic?)”

These people are a freaking embarrassment. With all our wealth and military power, this is the very best we can do?? Your not serious?

9 posted on 08/15/2008 6:27:59 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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By the time its watered down, it will be the most worthless document ever written. Even more worthless than a sanction against Saddam Hussein or a condemnation of Israel. That worthless.


22 posted on 08/15/2008 7:56:26 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does not mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."

Hmm. Will someone be "jumping" from the UN building this weekend?

25 posted on 08/15/2008 7:59:05 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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The word applies more to the current leadership in the Whitehorse. No back bone.

"We can do business with this man", wasn't that what jorge said about putin.

26 posted on 08/15/2008 8:23:55 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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