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Russian General Threatens Poland with Attack over US deal
Jerusalem Post ^ | 15 Aug 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/15/2008 6:40:42 AM PDT by docbnj

A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a US missile defense battery exposes the country to attack, pointing out that Russian military doctrine permits the use of nuclear weapons in such a situation, the Interfax news agency reported. *** Interfax said he added, in clear reference to the agreement, that Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn said that would include elements of strategic deterrence systems, according to Interfax.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bear; belarus; bullying; coldwar; coldwar2; communsim; defenses; easterneurope; geopolitics; kgb; kremlin; mad; missile; missiledefense; nuclear; nukes; poland; putin; sovietunion; ussr; wmd
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Do you think you’re calling me out or something? The details of my life are none of your business and just as importantly, aren’t relevant at all to what I’ve said.

I have never said that the only people who should be able to hold an opinion about military action should be in the military.

My whole point is that it’s very easy to be an internet commando and to call for war, when any rational person would take a more rational and realistic approach.

When people say, “we” or “let’s” in these contexts, they almost always mean someone else, not themselves.

Only a complete D bag would take issue with what I’ve said. There appear to be a good number of FR these days, which is sad. You will have to decide if you fit the category or not. Either way, I’m done with you.


281 posted on 08/16/2008 10:08:53 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He didn’t serve. He’s a dumbass liar pretending to have served.


282 posted on 08/16/2008 10:10:17 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: omega4179

Plus they hate Putin after he tried to shut the gas off a few years ago.


283 posted on 08/16/2008 10:18:24 AM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I asked essentially the same question you asked in #202. People can determine for themselves what your reaction to the question means.
284 posted on 08/16/2008 10:18:29 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

You are an embarassing old coot.


285 posted on 08/16/2008 10:28:16 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: CommieCutter

And you’re a dumbass who has admitted he hasn’t. (but, I guess a cousin in the Navy doing your dirty work is your pass).


286 posted on 08/16/2008 10:32:14 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: CommieCutter
When I say “let’s teach them a lesson” or anything of the like, I keep in mind that one day there might be a draft and when that day comes I will go , unlike somone like you who will run to Canada!!

Such valor!!!

You get a pass because you're clearly still a kid.

287 posted on 08/16/2008 10:34:39 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: redgolum
What purpose will a few Patriot batteries serve?

They ain't Patriots. They'll be the new strategic missile interceptors. That's a serious reaction to a serious risk.

Obviously, it's not designed as a provocation -- but the Russians are choosing to take it that way.

The Russkies are the ones who are bluffing and blustering. Accordingly, it would not be wise to back down. That would only lead to another confrontation down the road.

Don't be afraid. You don't win these "whose is the biggest" contests by keeping your pants zipped. And, if you're not willing to play the game, you'll lose -- in both the short and long-run.

Don't pontificate, think. The stakes are to hight to play around with this.

I did think. And I based my assessment on practical knowledge of U.S.-Russian relationships over the past 50 or 60 years.

Your belief that "the stakes are too high to play around with this" is exactly right...but not in the way you think.

288 posted on 08/16/2008 10:36:12 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

I’m neither embarrassing nor old... but keep digging, bosco. You’re revealing more about yourself with every post.


289 posted on 08/16/2008 10:39:24 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WoofDog123
Under what circumstances would the polish component of the system be useful from missiles originating in Russia? (I don’t know)

That is what matters, not what the stated use of the system is.

I agree. I think Bush has pulled some boners. The Kosovo/Bosnia deal for one. And then why we don't let the Europeans take care of their own self-defense needs is beyond me. We are antagonizing a country that we would be better suited to be partners with.

290 posted on 08/16/2008 10:43:59 AM PDT by nralife
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

*chuckle*


291 posted on 08/16/2008 11:19:23 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: redgolum
We can with Poland.

But we wouldn't... trust me... no president would attack Russia unless they attacked US interests DIRECTLY. This is an indisputable fact...
292 posted on 08/16/2008 12:11:03 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: avacado
Can’t we move troops from Germany, through Poland, and then through the Ukraine? Can and will are two different things. We would never attack Russia directly unless they were directly attacking US interests. We no longer have the balls for such action, and neither Hussein or McCain would do anything differently.
293 posted on 08/16/2008 12:12:16 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Why don’t you pick up your gun and lead the way?

I have done so and would gladly do so again.

I would support my child fighting as well as be willing to do so myself. I wouldn't be a coward like those who would not or would rather sacrifice their principles just to shy away for a fight.

I am so thankful those that have fought in wars before us did not have your attitude.
294 posted on 08/16/2008 12:14:43 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas
Again, if my country needs me, then I’m there and doing what needs to be done. But, please be thoughtful of us while you’re making your boasts in these posts. Thank you.

Don't thank me, unlike you I haven't done anything for our country that I should be thanked for.

However, if your home page is true, and I have no reason to think otherwise, you have done and are doing much more than just "anything" for our nation's security. Having said that, I want to thank you here and now for your personal contribution to our nation's security, and by extension to the security of me and my family.

295 posted on 08/16/2008 1:29:57 PM PDT by epow ("Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.")
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To: redgolum
if we start a shooting war with Russia, it will end up going nuclear. There is no way they would allow an army inside their borders again. Is Georgia worth that?

It will only go nuclear if we were to actually invade Russia itself. If we fight the Russian in Georgia then Russia will have to ask themselves the same question: Will they go to nuclear war over Georgia? The answer is no.

296 posted on 08/16/2008 5:34:44 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: okie01
Another point you`ve missed is the Commie missiles in Cuba were nuke tipped ballistic missiles and our missiles would be kinetic kill interceptors, no nukes and not even designed to strike ground targets but to shoot missiles out of the sky.
297 posted on 08/16/2008 6:18:30 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad
Another point you`ve missed...

I certainly did. Thanks for filling it in.

298 posted on 08/16/2008 7:41:59 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

And neither have you. You nothing but a LIAR sock puppet for Move On.org you angry liberal.


299 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:01 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: wideawake

nuff sed!


300 posted on 08/16/2008 8:57:26 PM PDT by purpleraine
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