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To: lizol
Moscow can spend 350 billion on their military, but they'll still be a glorified bunch of slavic savages led by only marginally more intelligent officers.

Patton was right.
3 posted on 08/14/2008 2:14:18 PM PDT by mkjessup (Romania had the Ceausescus, America has the Clintons.)
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To: mkjessup
Moscow can spend 350 billion on their military, but they'll still be a glorified bunch of slavic savages led by only marginally more intelligent officers.

Racistly underestimating your enemies is a long-term recipe for disaster.

4 posted on 08/14/2008 2:17:03 PM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: mkjessup

Moscow can spend 350 billion on their military, but they’ll still be a glorified bunch of slavic savages led by only marginally more intelligent officers.


Bunch of Slavic savages... like Poles and Czechs, Serbs, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Bulgarians?


8 posted on 08/14/2008 2:41:23 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: mkjessup

In short, and I do not want to talk about politics:

1. Georgia hada:
NATO- armed
Israeli- trained
- Better equiped military
Yet they were crushed within 24 hrs by simmilar size Russian Army.

By the words of Saakashvilli himself.
“Russians poured 6,000 men and 150 pieces of armor”

Lets stop bull*hiting.
Russians used same quantity of troops agains georgians as Georgians hade. And they destroyed them.
NATO modeled Georgian army was crushed, without Pentagon knowing that Russians entered Georgia!

If I was US general, I would change something, something BIG.


15 posted on 08/14/2008 2:50:38 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: mkjessup

“Patton was right. “
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100% agree!
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“The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin, they have not changed. They never will change and we will never learn, at least, not until it is too late. Russia knows what it wants. World domination. And she is laying her plans accordingly. You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives.”


44 posted on 08/14/2008 3:17:32 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: mkjessup
"Moscow can spend 350 billion on their military, but they'll still be a glorified bunch of slavic savages led by only marginally more intelligent officers."

I've worked side by side with enough Russians to say that every one of them was intelligent, civilized, and mercenary.

At the individual level, they are to be respected...and they can clean your clock if you slip up.

That's not their weak point. They aren't savages as you depict them above.

Instead, they have weaknesses working in groups...and far greater weaknesses coordinating and cooperating with other groups (the larger the group, the more difficulties they foist on each other).

That's a cultural issue, and because their culture is largely unchanged since Patton's time, their culture explains why his observations on their operations remain salient.

But don't confuse different *cultures* with individual myths/stereotypes (which leads to bigotry and racism). As individuals, the average Russian is quite likely to outthink and outwork you, shrewdly.

It's their culture that holds them back and gets them in periodic trouble. Heck, this whole Georgian war is an exercise in Kremlin ego-stroking and plummage pageantry (a risky show, at that, too).

69 posted on 08/14/2008 3:54:00 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: mkjessup

Many of us have said some strong words against the Russians and maybe crossed the line but you calling Slavs savages is just plain bigotry.


70 posted on 08/14/2008 3:56:20 PM PDT by Tramonto (Regime change in Russia)
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To: mkjessup

Don’t forget his quotes on Jews, Blacks, and Women. They’re great too! (/sarc)


91 posted on 08/14/2008 6:07:19 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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