Atheist challenges ‘In God We Trust’(We need to Freep the survey!)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103424/ ^

[Devilinbaggypants]

SAN FRANCISCO - An atheist who has spent four years trying to ban the Pledge of Allegiance from being recited in public schools is now challenging the motto printed on U.S. currency because it refers to God. Michael Newdow seeks to remove “In God We Trust” from U.S. coins and dollar bills, claiming in a federal lawsuit filed Thursday that the motto is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion....

[muawiyah]

Look, I know this might seem a little out of line but since you atheists have no fear of “life after death” and the pain of punishment in Hell, maybe you could go discuss your feelings with this Newdow puke. Certainly you have nothing to lose (and neither does he).

[massgopguy]

And fight if we must
When our cause is just
And our motto shall be
In God is our trust
Oh say does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave
o’re the land of the free
and the home of the brave

[Pawtucket Patriot]

Nice try there muawiyah, but seriously why all the hate? Come in for a hug, come on, hug it out. ;)

[muawiyah]

Frankly I think you should remain seated while communion is passed and the government should be neutral when it comes to oaths and affirmations (except for the President and the judges).

People should be free to say what they want, and there should be no liberty at all for anyone to be able to go to court to suppress the free speech of others (except for kiddie porn, of course).

[muawiyah]

Hate is irrelevant. You will be assimilated.

[JamesP81]

Well, said, my FRiend, and I agree.

[djsherin]

I’m not opposed to this at all. I’m just saying that if we have some oath or pledge, I would rather it be the Constitution than the state.

[BubbaBasher]

Direct link to poll

[MrB]

How, unless you believe in some “evolving” Constitution,

can “In God We Trust” be deemed a Constitutional non-issue at ratification,

and without any textual changes regarding this issue,

now be even considered to be remotely unconstitutional?

Oh, forgot the effects of “libtardation”.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

In God We Trust is the official national motto of the United States and the U.S. state of Florida. The motto first appeared on a United States coin in 1864, but In God We Trust did not become the official U.S. national motto until after the passage of an Act of Congress in 1956.

I guess I’m not following what you’re saying MrB about an evolving Constitution.

[MrB]

Seriously, in the Big Picture,

why would atheists care if we killed a human or two, or 600 million (deaths communists/atheists responsible for in 20th century)?

I mean, humans are only in existance for around 60-70 years max, right? That’s just an eyeblink in history.

Why would it even matter if we snuffed the atheists, then?
I mean, they’re just a bit more evolved than a chimpanzee, and not worth much more anyway...

Or, you could look at humans as
the crowning glory of God’s Creation,
made in His image, with eternal life,
for the purpose of His Glory.

But, to say one view is superior to the other would be “intolerant”, now, wouldn’t it?

[tflabo]

Sure....if one chooses atheism so be it. There is no formal discrimination against it. In this predominantly Judeao-Christian culture a few radical atheists with agendas should not be able tear down the practices of the majority. Glad you are not one of them.

[MrB]

Exactly - the Secular Humanists have figured out how use the government to impose their religion on the rest of us.

[MrB]

Leftists invented the concept of a “living Constitution” and “evolving standards” in order to get around the proscriptions on powers of the federal government.

I’m being highly sarcastic on this topic, because it disgusts me so.

[Sigurdrifta]

In Great Britain MP’s and others are required to swear an oath to the Queen, and there has been a move afoot to make others (such as schoolchildren) do so as well.

I guess that’s why those folks are called “subjects”, while we’re called “citizens”.

[Xenalyte]

Doesn’t Newdow have a freakin’ JOB to go to?

[Pawtucket Patriot]

We all know Al Gore coined the phrase, but what does that have to do with the topic?

I’m simply saying, if we didn’t have “evolving standards,” the phrase, “In God We Trust” wouldn’t be on any coinage, or anything, yet you seem disgusted by that.

Along the same lines, women wouldn’t have the right to vote, does that disgust you too?

[dmz]

I know this might seem a little out of line but since you atheists have no fear of “life after death” and the pain of punishment in Hell

Wow. So atheists and saved Christians have something really big in common: no fear after death and no Hell. Who knew? We agnostics are just wishy washy, hedging our bets.

[MrB]

To my knowledge, Al Gore didn’t coin the phrase “living Constitution” - this has been used by judges long before algore was on the scene in order to bypass the onerous task of amending the Constitution.

I’m disgusted by judges (and libs) who have no regard for the written words of the Constitution or the methods by which it actually may legitimately be changed.
BTW, the 19th AMENDMENT conferred the right to vote on women. This is the proper way to change the Constitution.

At ratification, the “standards” were set, as well as a way to change those standards.

“In God We Trust” is not the result of an evolved standard, it is the result of a set standard. I’m not sure what you meant by that.

[Pawtucket Patriot]

Hedging our bets is right DMZ. LOL.
600,000+ religions in the world, every human society no matter how remote on earth has some form of religion, and I just can’t figure out which one is the best for me yet. hah!

Seriously, my other friend who’s Agnostic like myself says he tells people he’s Agnostic because he doesn’t know the bible well enough to be an Atheist. A good Atheist must know the bible very well in America. Anyone want to know why? It may have to do with some kind of pressure or social brow beating perhaps?