'Nazi' Atrocities Shock in Georgia - Civilians 'Slain & Sent to Camps'

nypost.com ^ | August 14, 2008 | CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA in Gori, Georgia, and CHUCK BENNETT in NY

[Free ThinkerNY]

Russian troops are indiscriminately murdering civilians and interning them in concentration camps, the embattled Georgian president charged yesterday, as he begged the West not to "appease" Moscow as it did with Nazi Germany.

The startling accusations came as Russian troops blatantly violated a cease-fire by sending an armored convoy through the strategic city of Gori.

The invaders first poured into Georgia five days ago - ostensibly in defense of a pro-Moscow breakaway region, South Ossetia. "What they are doing is exactly what Stalin did to Finland, what they've done to Afghanistan, what in the Second World War Germany was doing to Poland and to other European countries," Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said.

Saakashvili, a US-educated lawyer who once practiced law in New York, described the situation in Georgia as the rape of his country.

[archy]

The LAW he’s packing looks to be a PG-18 or PG-22 version.

Pg-18 Mukha [*Fly*] I think. The PG-22 has a larger diameter tube.

The grenade launcher on the AK looks like a BG-15 maybe ?!?!?

What I learned to call GP-30 *Obuvka*, which is the launcher designition [means *shoe*, and you're using the prototype designation, Russian equivalent of *XM*.

The earlier GP-25 is called Kostyor [*campfire*] The ammo is not interchangable between the two, and looks nothing like the US M79/M203 40mm grenade launcher ammo. GP is abbreviation for Granatomyot Podstvolnyj or under-barrel grenade. The little VOG-25 grenades are neat little gems inside; the VOG-30s are similar but have a longer bullet-shaped nose, maybe for HEDP HEAT effect.

[Squantos]

Only know what I stepped on and in and shot at with from time to time .......;o)

Thanks for the update Archy !

[archy]

Wow, the Russians must have created these concentration camps in record time. They've only had, what, about a week to construct these camps (?).

Those sneaky Russians! They stole the plans to our Denver Detention Center!

DENVER (Map, News) - An industrial warehouse larger than a football field will be used as a processing center for detainees during the Democratic National Convention, and it features chain-link fencing topped with barbed wire as holding cells.

Groups planning marches, concerts and other events during the Aug. 25-28 convention dub the center "Gitmo on the Platte," for the nearby South Platte River.

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[GovernmentShrinker]

It’s certainly not justified, nor is it the reason. But it does call into question how innocent the Georgians are in all this. There’s NOTHING to revere about Stalin. And while maintaining historical sites such as a former home of a murderous dictator accompanied by exhibits that emphasize how horrible he was could be attributed to an honest desire to teach important lessons of history, the giant outdoor statue of him suggests other motives. Having been personally acquainted with someone who had to flee Stalin’s Russia as a child, with his mother literally having to pick undigested bits of grain out of horse manure to get enough calories to keep herself and her son alive, the idea of people openly revering Stalin today makes me sick. And it certainly makes me question whether this invasion really fits the simplistic story plot that much of the media is giving it — that of big evil Putin-Russia invading and brutalizing innocent/pure/democratic Georgia.

[Tzimisce]

Well they’ve been accusing Georgia of the same thing.

Look I’m just saying that it’s a war, both sides want sympathy and there are people on both sides willing to say anything to get sympathy.

We shouldn’t believe every “news story” coming out of the area. We know how much the news is censored and biased in this country, and they’re free to say anything they want.

And the last part is: I can’t blame the Russians - I think the world would be a much happier place with fewer know-it-all liberal journalists. I’m not advocating violence - I’m just saying I know the feeling...

[Louis Foxwell]

There is an historical record that documents Russian inhumanity for nearly a hundred years. They have murdered and imprisoned hundreds of millions of their own and their neighbor’s citizens.
Knowing the historical record and their partnership with Nazi terrorism, it is inconceivable that they have not committed the most vicious atrocities against the Georgians.
Again, the historical record proves that Russia has been sponsoring foment in Georgia since its independence. That was the reason for Georgia’s attempt to stop the terrorism that Russia had been sponsoring.
The fact that Russia had been planning its incursion since last winter demonstrates their true intent, to destroy Georgian independence and bring them back under the iron curtain where all dissidents could be slaughtered or imprisoned.
Your complete lack of historical perspective is consistent with Obama’s desire that Russia and Georgia play nice. His, and your, unwillingness to acknowledge that genuine evil marks Russia’s behavior against Georgia is an all too familiar acceptance of tyranny.
I strongly reccomend you read the first few pages of Gulag Archipellago. It will forever change your attitude toward Russia.