Skip to comments.Photo of Barry Soetero school registration in Indonesia (as Indonesian citizen) Is this real?
Posted on 08/13/2008 4:29:21 PM PDT by SE Mom
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What bothers me is that everything is written by the same person, except for "Barry Soetoro." Who wrote it?
Some things that might be a bit enlightening.
The words on the facing page, (seen in reverse through the paper) Angka Nilai, means “Grades” or “Scores” This is a teacher’s grade book and student register.
There is a section delaing with “Bangsa” with three subheadings, a) Warga Negara, “citizenship”, b) Keturunan Asing, “foreign ethnic identity”, and c) Suku bangsa, “local ethnicity”. Barry was identified here only as an Indonesian citizen, and other categories were left blank.
Then there is a space for “Nama Orang Tua” or “father”: here we see the name “L. Soetoro, MA”. Interesting that the degree is mentioned.
Then we see “Pekerjaan” or “Occupation” (of the father); It says “Peg. Dunia Geografi and then I can’t make out the rest. This means Pegawai “employee” then “World Geography” and the rest is likely a reference to some school where Soetoro may have taught or studied. or a government department.
The 1/1/1968 date is the date “Deterima disekolah ini tgl.” or “tanggal (date) received in this school”. This is the matriculation date.
Then later the Heading “Meninggalkan sekolah ini” (Left this School) has an entry after the word “sebab” or “because” reading “pindah” or “moved”
That’s it guys and girls. This document is consistent with a genuine school record. I see no evidence of anything that would set off alarm bells with me.
Barry matriculated there, was registered as an Indonesian citizen of the Islam religion, and later left.
There is nothing in this form that says anything about a “stepfather” or a “principal”.
If you have a question about any of the Indonesian text, I can clarify for you.
I’m not sure that the name entry was made by a different person.
But, in any case these entries would have been made by whoever registered young Barry. One clerk could have entered the name and someone conducting the entrance interview could have made the other entries.
Or not. It could just be the difference between a ruler aligned entry and others that were entered without a ruler.
I’m not sure this is important except to act as an additional reason to take the document as genuine.
Another wrinkle. Note the space where “Barry Soetoro” is entered is labled on the right with an “L”, and the empty space below is labeled with a “P”. These are abbreviations for “Laki-laki” or male, and “Perempuan” or female.
I'd like to believe it, but I need to know why the entire record was written by one person EXCEPT for "Barry Soetoro," which was written by someone else.
Who wrote in his name here?
It's not GAME OVER for me until I have a definitive answer as to who wrote it.
That’s what I meant by step-father or principal- it could have been someone else who entered the name first- then info filled in later.
My text showed up at the bottom- in error.
“As is explored in detail on Daniel Pipess website, Obama was enrolled at his primary schools in Indonesia as a Muslim; he attended the mosque during that period; his friends from that time testify that he was a devout Muslim boy. A former teacher at one of these schools, Tine Hahiyary, remembers a young Obama who was quite religious and actively took part in mengaji classes which teach how to read the Koran in Arabic. The blogger from Indonesia who reported this commented:
Mengagi is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, “mengaji classes” are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to... The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet.
Can you think of any institutional or government involvement in Indonesia where it is not required to identify your religious affiliation?
Indonesia gravitates between police state and oligarchy (and has been doing so for hundreds of years), so other than a handful of mad bombers and headhunters here and there, who has the opportunity to be an active, practicing "fundy"?
Lots of singing, tabala and clapping!!
There is no reason to believe that any Soetoro family member filled in any part of this form. Just the opposite. IN my experience, a teacher’s grade book or class registration would be filled in by a school employee or official.
Probably not the principal, though.
He was considered a person of slight character. But not an "immigrant" in the sense of a non-British subject. He was NOT considered "English" though.
I doubt you are ever going to know or find out who entered anonymous details into a routine school form forty years ago. You might even have a hard time finding out who worked in the school office then, as it might have varied day to day. Maybe one of the old timers could recognize the printing, but actual verification seems pretty far-fetched. The person(s) who entered the data that long ago would probably be "meninggal dunia" by now.
Ben Franklin's eldest son, a noted Tory, had no problem "moving back home" to England.
Folks in the British North American colonies were quite free to relocate to anywhere in the empire (unless they were black slaves of course).
Possibly the Dutch set the standard too.
United States Constitution, Article II, Sect. 1
My family (on my maternal grandfather’s side) is rife with Benedict Arnold stories, as they were United Empire Loyalists who moved to Canada after the Revolution. There is said to be a non-direct family connection to the man.
Colonials who moved to England were always considered colonials, their loyalty to the Crown notwithstanding.
With that said, I do see other entries made by the same hand that did "Barry Soetoro." Basically, all I need to hear is who would normally make entries in this record.
When you mentioned that "BS" could have been written using a ruler as a guide, that begs the question as to why use a ruler on ruled paper. As a handwriting analyst, I can say with some certainty, that two people wrote on this record book.
Even if you print a name and then write it in script, there are still commonalities to both that I can see.
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