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Russia angered by Israeli drone sale to Georgia
World Tribune ^ | 8/11/2008 | N/A

Posted on 08/11/2008 4:08:41 PM PDT by a_Turk

TEL AVIV — Israel has acknowledged the sale of unmanned aerial vehicles and other Israeli security support to Georgia which has prompted complaints and threats from Moscow.

Officials said the Defense Ministry approved the sale of several tactical UAV systems to Georgia in 2007. They said Georgia has used the unidentified UAVs for border reconnaissance missions.

Georgia has credited Israeli military assistance after claiming the destruction of at least 11 Russian combat aircraft and 50 main battle tanks.

"Israel should be proud of its military, which trained Georgian soldiers," Georgian Reintegration Minister Temur Yakobshvili told Israel Army radio on Aug 10.

"We killed 60 Russian soldiers just yesterday. The Russians have lost more than 50 tanks, and we have shot down 11 of their planes. They have sustained enormous damage in terms of manpower."

Russia has complained of the Israeli UAV sale to Georgia. In May 2008, the Russian Army shot down an Israeli UAV along the Georgian border. The UAV was not identified.

The Russian demand for Israel to stop military sales came amid the intensification of fighting with Georgia and carried with it the implicit threat of increased aid for Israel's enemies.

Israel has countered with complaints about Russia's military exports to Iran and Syria. Moscow, like Israel, has responded by insisting it sells only defensive systems.

Meanwhile, Israel has been divided over whether to continue weapons sales to Georgia, Middle East Newsline reported.

Officials said the debate pits the Defense Ministry against the Foreign Ministry. They said the Foreign Ministry has advocated a suspension of all weapons sales and support services to Georgia while the Defense Ministry sought to continue exports.

"The question is whether there should be a temporary suspension of arms exports to Georgia during the war with Russia," an official said.

In addition to UAVs and other defensive systems, industry sources said Israeli firms have also sold rockets as well as night-vision systems to Tbilisi.

On Aug. 10, the Israeli Defense Ministry, which has overseen an estimated $200 million in military exports to Georgia, convened senior staffers to review the Foreign Ministry recommendation. Officials said the ministry decided to continue to approve exports for non-lethal systems for military and security applications in Georgia.

"The Defense Ministry has been conducting a very wise policy," Amos Gilad, director of the Defense Ministry's political-military bureau, said. "It has taken all factors into account. Defensive systems have been sent, and they have not upset the strategic balance."

Moscow has also asserted that Israeli trainers were advising the Georgian military on how to shoot down Russian combat aircraft and disable main battle tanks.

In December 2007, Israel decided to end the sale of offensive military systems to Georgia, but did not cancel any contracts. Officials said Israel came under pressure from Russia, who warned that such sales would be deemed a hostile act. France and the United States have been leading arms exporters to Georgia.

Still, Russia has pressed Israel for a complete military embargo on Georgia. Officials said the Israeli Foreign Ministry was concerned that Moscow could retaliate by selling advanced weapons to Iran and Syria.

"The Foreign Ministry, and this includes the minister, does not want to give Russia a pretext for selling advanced systems to Iran and Syria," the official said.

For its part, Israel has warned Russia not to export the S-300PMU-2 air and missile defense system to Teheran. Western intelligence sources said S-300 components have already arrived in Iran and were expected to be assembled into operating systems in early 2009.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; armssales; armstrade; drones; geopolitics; georgia; israel; russia; uav; usa
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To: a_Turk

Israel remembers very well how the USSR planned to destroy the Israeli reactor at Dimona in the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Only the Israeli destruction of the Egyptian air force thwarted those plans.


21 posted on 08/11/2008 7:19:45 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Did you see this?


22 posted on 08/11/2008 8:03:22 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: a_Turk
This is what Russia gets for supplying Iran and hizb-allah with rockets and bombs to try and wipe Israel off the map.
23 posted on 08/11/2008 8:17:07 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: a_Turk
The Russian demand for Israel to stop military sales came amid the intensification of fighting with Georgia and carried with it the implicit threat of increased aid for Israel's enemies.

Oh, noze! They might help Iran get nukes. Or sell radar to Syria.

I just hope the Iranians get the same Russian half azz that the Syrians got. lol

24 posted on 08/11/2008 8:30:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: a_Turk

I say that we give Georgia 1,000 M1A2’s, 200 AH-64 Longbows, and 200 FA-18 Superhornets, along with Predator and Reaper UAV’s.


25 posted on 08/11/2008 8:44:40 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Seconded


26 posted on 08/11/2008 8:46:27 PM PDT by sport
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To: Lijahsbubbe
What to do with a dirty country like Russia.

They are in their death throes.

Falling birth rates, galloping death rates, and emigration will put an end to the Rus. But in the meantime, they need to be quarantined like a Mad Dog.

27 posted on 08/11/2008 9:15:56 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Lijahsbubbe
roosha is degenerate...it must war for no other reason but jealousy. It has been given many chances to join the Western world but always declines..to hell with her.
28 posted on 08/11/2008 9:20:05 PM PDT by usshadley
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To: Shermy

This b!tch should be doing the Thorzine shuffle


29 posted on 08/11/2008 9:21:20 PM PDT by usshadley
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To: a_Turk

Israel should keep the hardware coming. Increase aid to Syria and Iran? For a change?


30 posted on 08/11/2008 9:39:02 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (http://ww-w.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html or try http://astore.amazon.com/bemasnebo-20)
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To: Eleutheria5
Here's how some Russians are viewing the situation:

I expect we'll be paying through the nose for the terrible mistake of Kosovo for a very long time.

31 posted on 08/12/2008 7:30:21 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: a_Turk

Gee! That is a real shame. Ha,ha,ha,.


32 posted on 08/12/2008 8:04:15 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: a_Turk

My, my Moscow is getting a mite techy about what the rest of us are doing with/about Georgia. Here’s to wondering why it’s Russia (Soviet Union’s) business.


33 posted on 08/12/2008 1:47:52 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Islander7

And how DARE the Israelis help some tiny country hold its own against overwhelming odds? What were they thinking?


34 posted on 08/12/2008 9:04:41 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (http://ww-w.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html or try http://astore.amazon.com/bemasnebo-20)
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To: madison10

Georgia would not have made any such move into South Ossetia without the backing of the US. It now seems, though, that both the US and Georgia have badly misjudged the Russian reaction and the US are unable to move.


36 posted on 08/13/2008 4:30:46 AM PDT by AUSSIEBATTLER
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

I hope they lose more than what they can replace.


37 posted on 08/13/2008 2:00:40 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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