Posted on 08/09/2008 10:54:34 AM PDT by Perdogg
DEBKAfiles military sources discount the claim by Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps commander Maj. Gen. Ali Jafari that Iran had test-fired a new naval weapon that could destroy any vessel within a 300-km range.
Jafari boasted to reporters Mon. Aug. 4: Today the IRGC has the capability to target the enemies targets with a wide range of missiles and in a few minutes in case of any attack.
Responding to a question, Jafari said: The Strait of Hormuz is an important and strategic strait. Considering its proximity to our shores, it is completely within the range of our weapons and shutting the strait for an unlimited time is easily possible. There are no limits for us in this regard.
Wednesday, an American spokesman commented that closure of the Strait, through which 40 percent of the worlds oil passes, would hurt Iran most of all because its own oil exports and refined fuel products imports would be blocked.
Western intelligence sources were skeptical about the IRGC commanders boast of a sophisticated sea missile as propaganda fantasy and unfounded. If Iran has such a weapon, they said, why dont they exhibit it?
Jafari said the missiles were test fired as scheduled but admitted unprofessional photography made the tests seem bogus.
(Excerpt) Read more at debka.com ...
As dubious Debka is at times, I think they are right on this. The Iranians are bluffing and blustering. Why would they else screech all the time how powerful they are while photoshoppin missile tests. Their only weapon against us is oil-price, potential nukes (not yet) and terrorism. Their conventional military capabilities are better than Saddam’s army but still a joke.
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Or was it to post DEBKA articles under HUMOR?
Regardless, a little DEBKA in the morning makes for regularity.
I hope not. Debka isn't really any worse than Al-Reuters or AP when it comes to reliability. At least Debka is not on the enemies side.
OK IRGC,.. PUT UP or SHUT UP!
Fire one of these hummers at a target at sea under full international observance and monitoring every step of the way.
Ya do and hit the target OK.
Ya don’t do it or won’t do it then... HEY! IRGC SHUT UP!
Well, no surprise here, sounds like the silkworm scare to me. We could shoot those down with a 5”54.
Jack
Precisely. That’s been my impression as well. I posted once to another thread the analogy to Baghdad Bob style of BS which seems quite popular in the ME. Sabre rattling, and fiercesome facial expressions. Quite primitive, but effective apparently as nothing to date has been done about their aggression except talk.
>>Their conventional military capabilities are better than Saddams army but still a joke.
I doubt they are that good.
If the insane Islamofacists in control of Iran, really had the firepower to take out Israel, our military bases in Iraq, and our Navy ships in their backyard. They would have done it without talking about it
Muzzies always bluster. At a certain point, civilized human beings stop taking them seriously, and eventually they give up and pick a new tactic. Notice how few “Muslims Will Kill the Great Satan” videos are being released these days. They couldn’t do it, and even they realize that they look like fools.
Believing their bluster is a waste of time. Personally, however, I think they should be struck just for spewing such stupidity and trying to upset civilized humanity. Guess it’s a good thing I’m not President...
No kidding!? That’s cool.
The key to understanding all this is the difference between a “guilt” or “coscience” based society and an “honor” based society.
We in the West are “guilt” or “coscience” based. In short, facts matter, and actual capabilities and culpability matter. Truth matters. We therefore are concerned about backing up any claims we make.
Most of the ME are “honor” based. There, saving face is all that matters. If blustering and lying gets you by, that’s as good as doing. Facts are irrelevant.
Turning to these claims: The targets of the claims are two-fold. One is to save face with their own populace. We claim to have incredible weapons, and we do. The populace hears about those weapons and by and large thinks that’s just blustering. They expect the Iranian gov’t to counter with equally bold blustering in order to save face.
In fact, the Iranian gov’t also probably thinks a lot of our military might is just bluster. (That little problem of us taking down Iraq is something that can be handled through simple cognitive dissonance.)
Many in the West take Iran’s blustering seriously because we aren’t used to the “save face” mindset. We therefore become surprised when we find out they are making it up (although most freepers know better by now). We shouldn’t. The surprise should be if/when they ever tell the truth.
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coscience = conscience. Sheesh.
Cool mock-up of the design they have there. Did they ever get it to work? Any actual verification that this thing exists? Any film of one flying? ANY verified tests?
The materials needed for a real ramjet are barely within reach of US and Japanese tech right now. Somehow doubt that Russia and/or China could pull it off, esp. a few years ago.
The ME types aren’t the only one who use bluster to “save face” in the face of Western military power and tech.
I am not sure about the source, but having said that...
http://www.rense.com/general59/theSunburniransawesome.htm
DEBKA is three, Israeli, children using a Ouija board, running W2k Sever Edition on an old 586, out of a kibbutz school near the Golan.
Their entire culture is built on a lie: islam. There is no possibility of any truth, decency or anything else coming from any such muslim-dominated society.
Debka sucks, but Iran has been caught lying more than once about weapons development. Remember, they were dumb enough to think they could add missiles via Photoshop and get away with it.
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