Posted on 08/08/2008 10:35:38 AM PDT by dascallie
Posted Today, 11:35 AM Michelle M New Member = 100 Posts Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 94 Poster Rank: #345
(August 7, 2008) Things you might not know about Barack (Rocky Mtn News)- ObamaMentions Obama's Kenyan Citizenship! Gasp!!
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Can't imagine how they let this slip out, but watch the scrambling by the bots!!
Would love to know where they got this, even though they list their sources...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ahoo_headlines
Entered Harvard Law School in 1988, was elected the first African–American editor of the Harvard Law Review. He graduated magna cum laude in 1991.
Won two Grammys for Best Spoken Word Albums for an autobiography in 1995 "Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" and his second book, "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream," published in October 2006.
Mother Ann Dunham died of ovarian cancer in 1995. Father Barack Obama Sr. was killed in a car wreck in 1982.
Spent four years in his stepfather’s native country of Indonesia.
Is the fifth African-American senator in U.S. history
Is the first presidential candidate to come from Hawaii.
Favorite movies: "The Godfather" (Parts I and II) and "Lawrence of Arabia."
In his early years he was known as Barry.
According to his memoirs, he admitted using alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in his youth.
His first name comes from the word that means "blessed by God" in Arabic.
At his wife's suggestion, he quit smoking before his campaign to win the Democratic nomination began.
Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.
(read more at link...)
Source: biography.com, Internet Movie Database, Atlanta Journal Constitution
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That applies to births to Kenyan citzens outside the country after 1963. I haven't a clue what the law is for a 1961 birth, though it's not really much of an issue.
Oh, don't worry. Finding counterproductive things to attack Obama over is a daily occurrence here.
That’s common, their Canadian citizenship is governed by Canada, who may or may not let them give it up. But they’d be dealing with Canada, not the US. My guess they would, but many countries won’t or will do so only limited circumstances due to things like mandatory military service. Cuba doen’t recognize dual citizenship, as far as they’re concerned any American citizen born in Cuba is Cuban, period. Forever.
the natural born requirements didn’t apply to those who were alive when the constitution was adopted which addresses your issue about the early presidents.
No he can't, that's Panama's decision.
As I noted in my last post Cuba will not accept renunciation of citizenship. Should we strip naturalized Cubans of their US citizenship.
Like it or not the United States cannot revoke citizenship on behalf of another country. The fact that naturalized citizens renounce all other loyalties (that's the first issue addressed in the oath, all naturalized citizens have done it) has no impact on the laws of another country.
Having just read Kenya’s rule for citizenship, if one wants to become a citizen of Kenya, that person must renounce their allegience to the country they left. I don’t think nobama has a dual citizenship with Kenya.
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html#recog
Are there any disadvantages to dual US/other citizenship?
Aside from the possibility that one or the other country might decide to impose distasteful restrictions on you because they consider you to be one of their citizens, there are at least two issues that you might (or might not) see as causes for concern.
If your line of work requires you to have a security clearance for accessing classified US government information, you may very possibly find that actively acquiring or retaining a foreign citizenship may cause you to be refused clearance (or may cause a clearance you already have to be revoked). If this might affect you, you would be well advised to consult with a knowledgeable lawyer.
If you are seriously planning to seek a political office in the US — especially in the federal government — it is extremely possible that having a second citizenship may be a serious liability. Your opponent will almost certainly be sorely tempted to (mis)represent your status for his/her own political gain — questioning your loyalty to the US and your suitability for office — and any efforts on your part to explain or justify your situation are likely to fall on deaf ears. This is less likely to be an issue if you are running for a state or local office.
That would apply to anyone holding dual citizenship. Per an earlier section in Chapter 6, that would include Obama.
"Every person who, having been born outside Kenya. is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall. if his father becomes. or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1). become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December. 1963."
Foreign citizenship is not an office, present, emolument or title.
Maybe he can be a UK citizen too!
Poor guy is going to need a suitcase full of passports when he travels.
Should it disqualify him? Absolutely.But I'll bet it doesn't.
I agree
Then there would have been a naturalization process done in the U.S. Nobody's shown anything to support that.
Doesn’t Lieberman have dual citizenship, too?
Briefly, Benjamin traces the phrase to English common law, back through Blackstone to the Magna Carta: Be you a 'natural born' subject... of the King. If so (and virtually all colonists were pre-Revolutionary War), then you were, barring being an American at 1789, not natural born. It was inserted last minute by John Jay to prevent a Royal post- 1789 from coming over and attempting to win election leading to a reunification with the British (Crown).
So dual citizenship may preclude BHO with possibly four dualities (UK, Kenyan, Indonesian and Canadian) even if he was born in Hawaii. Benjamin goes on with some humor pointing out that Gov. Richardson born in the States but of a native Mexican mother may be qualified to be both POTUS and POMexico.
Any takers on a bet that such evidence will be produced after his visit to Granny? Why else would he go to Hawaii right now? He must think people are really stoopid!
I'm guessing they surrendered their UK citizenship when they either affixed their name to the Declaration of Independence (Adams, Jefferson) or when they took up arms against the empire (Washington).
I think the main question is how/whether it would affect his electability if true..... if even a small % of people “in the middle” of the electorate might hesitate to vote for someone with perceived dual loyalties or uncertain loyalty, that would most certainly be a crushing blow to his electability.
Things you might not know about Barack Obama
The Rocky
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.
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