Posted on 08/08/2008 9:20:58 AM PDT by DCBryan1
As for me, I have a working relationship with local law enforcement, and they know that I will probably consent if they need to come to talk to me (after a phone call to my lawyer) when they come during daytime, but a night raid on an FFL-SOT holder will get them into a belt-fed firefire fight in a residential neighborhood.
I have enough to worry about with gang-bangers, MS-13, Aryan nation idiots, Hells angels, and various wannabes trying to increase their firepower by knocking off FFL-SOT's like the Kehoe brothers did to another Arkansas FFL holder (Killed the whole family, incl. 8 y/o girl)for 20 AR-15s). You probably remember the shootout with cops, the big blue suburban in a dash cam shootout where the cop and perp fired 30 rounds and no one got hit? That was a good guy.
Anyways...we need to do something about these damn no-knock raids. They should be so damn rare that only when life and limb are in IMMEDIATE and IMINENT danger should one be conducted (preferbally with the mayor, chief of police, and signing judge at the scene).
<.../.pissed off at WOD/JBT rant off>.
Amen.
He should have known they weren’t real law enforcement when they didn’t shoot the dog.
Agreed, stop this nonesense.
Sounds like his cousin is trying to outfit a new crib.
Lol!
I’m afraid that you are correct.
I wonder if that might be the only difference in some cases.
the truth is, this would have gone off the exact same way if these hoodlums shouted "Bloods!"
and the fact that you guys are comparing this to one bad raid in PGC shows you simply have an agenda and are using it to justify your picking and choosing of these events.
i'm not going to get into another drawn out discourse. we all know PGC turned out to be wrong. tell me how many successful raids occur on a daily basis. hundreds. you just do not read about them.
LMAO!!! Good one.
besides which a ban on raids would close down several reality teevee shows.
Anyone breaking down my door any time of day is going to get shot. But I’ll serve tea and cookies if they come with a warrant.
Should read:
Anyone breaking down my door any time of day is going to get shot. But I’ll serve tea and cookies if they knock and offer a warrant.
you post “They should be so damn rare that only when life and limb are in IMMEDIATE and IMINENT danger should one be conducted (preferbally with the mayor...”
Well, this mayor was present:
http://us.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/07/mayor.warrant/index.html
recently remodeled, but he didn’t suspect any of the white and Hispanic crew that worked on it.
you never know when somebody will see something shiny and desire to have it for their own...whether or not its of any real value...
best to keep prying eyes outta yer toybox, esp round Christmas and B-days etc etc etc... while I disagree with many here about drugs and their availability, the WOsD no-knocks are gonna keep setting the stage for ninjas to be killed en masse before too long...
LFOD...
If someone kicks my door in at three am they are getting all barrels of every weapon I have access to until they TOSS their frigging badges and ID cards DOWN the hall to me. In the mean time, I’ll take out anything that moves.
It will be THEIR fault, not mine.
I’ve never broken the law and if someone comes in screaming FBI, they damned sure better be wearing good armor, because if not, most of what I have will go through walls, people, and cars to name a few things.
I won’t tolerate a home invasion. Period.
Define successful...
No knock raids except in case of extreme danger to innocents {meaning private citizens and not the Cops as that is part of their job} should be forbidden or very limited conditions. The element of surprise alone should not be a good enough reason. The cop swearing the warrant should be by law forced to be the one to serve it as well.
“Should we ban traffic stops, too, since those have been abused by criminals?”
In most cases YES. We all know that most stops are just an excuse to steal money from the public and have nothing to do with public safety.
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