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Breaking Fox news banner only - Georgian official reports shootdown of two Russian aircraft
Fox news ^ | 8/8/08 | na

Posted on 08/08/2008 5:37:41 AM PDT by SueRae

uh oh

bigtime

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 888; caucasus; geopolitics; georgiantroops; ossetia; shootdown; war
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To: Enchante

Yup. Russia can easily take them out. But it will be embarassing.


141 posted on 08/08/2008 6:24:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Enchante

They’re missing some of the air defense systems we gave them, which I believe include the Stingers speculated to have brought down those two Russian aircraft.


142 posted on 08/08/2008 6:24:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Hmm. The WRIF morning show guys were just making fun of someone who predicted the end of the world on 8-8-08 at 8 am. Maybe we shouldn’t laugh just yet....

****
Hey,we’ve made it past 8 am here in Texas! Woo-hoo!


143 posted on 08/08/2008 6:24:42 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: PGalt
Interesting. Dunno?

Sorry. Don't know why I was asking you. :)

In any case, this whole "multipolarization" business is largely what was behind the Clinton Chinagate scandal. Clinton wanted to "level the playing field".

144 posted on 08/08/2008 6:25:15 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: Spktyr

The straight of Hormuz isn’t.


145 posted on 08/08/2008 6:25:17 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: austinaero

We made it to 9:30 here so you guys should be safe until then.


146 posted on 08/08/2008 6:25:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Enchante

If that TOE is right, the Georgians are in deep caca. Their best aircraft are all ground attack (the Su-25s) and their fighters are second-line (MiG-21) or not designed as dogfighters (MiG-25). Granted, the Russian military is incredibly creaky these days, but still, I thought Georgia had a lot more firepower than that in their air force.

}:-)4


147 posted on 08/08/2008 6:26:21 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Economics. Turkey has a lot invested as far as rail and oil pipelines in Georgia, while Russia has been doing the same in Armenia and Azerbaijnan. Turkey is not going to allow Russia to upset the balance of power in the Black and Caspian Seas. Essentially the two are vying for control of resources here.


148 posted on 08/08/2008 6:26:27 AM PDT by neb52
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To: AppyPappy

Russia could probably conquer Georgia in a week but probably at the cost of at least 10,000 casualties.


149 posted on 08/08/2008 6:26:27 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Enchante

Read reports that Georgian Su-25’s have engaged Russian armor.


150 posted on 08/08/2008 6:27:23 AM PDT by Mac94
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To: AppyPappy

6:25 am left coast.

Stock markets open in 5 minutes back east.


151 posted on 08/08/2008 6:27:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 100 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: neb52

Don’t forget Russia and Turkey were historical enemies as well.


152 posted on 08/08/2008 6:27:26 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SueRae

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b26_1218094003

fighting video


153 posted on 08/08/2008 6:29:43 AM PDT by Mac94
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To: Mac94

So will it be “Road to Basra” or do the Russians have good air support in place? Wouldn’t think they would throw 100+ tanks out to be chewed up without providing good air cover, would they?


154 posted on 08/08/2008 6:30:11 AM PDT by Enchante (If oil was botox then Nancy Pelosi would have us drilling everywhere!!! (hat tip, STARWISE))
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To: Kozak

Georgia is a Member of NATO. Wonder how that will come into play?


155 posted on 08/08/2008 6:30:19 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Spktyr
I believe include the Stingers speculated to have brought down those two Russian aircraft.

That would be sweet if our Stingers are still better than the Ruskies defenses. Remember Afghanistan?

156 posted on 08/08/2008 6:30:22 AM PDT by McGruff (In loving memory of a lost FRiend YaYa123.)
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To: Enchante

http://www.civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=18966

Georgia pulling troops out of Iraq


157 posted on 08/08/2008 6:32:01 AM PDT by Mac94
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To: NavyCanDo
Georgia is a Member of NATO.

Very interesting. This scenario fits right into NATO's charter doesn't it?

158 posted on 08/08/2008 6:32:07 AM PDT by McGruff (In loving memory of a lost FRiend YaYa123.)
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To: G.Mason

It’s 582 miles, one way, from Baghdad to Tblisi. The Straits are even further out than that.

Playing with some numbers here, that’s almost a 2000 mile strike round trip, assuming they launch from somewhere out in the Gulf and don’t overfly Iran.

The A6 is only good for an ~1100 mile strike with full combat load. Yeah, there’s mid-air refuel, but still - a 2000 mile strike? That’s four hours in the air in something that’s not a strategic bomber.

Turkey’s promise to help Georgia would be worth more as they have quite a few land-based aircraft that could be there in only a few minutes.


159 posted on 08/08/2008 6:32:19 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SueRae

How close to Atlanta were the planes?


160 posted on 08/08/2008 6:32:33 AM PDT by Redbob ("WWJBD" ="What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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