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To: ModelBreaker

If a “Creator” did some “tuning” to create an Earth that is so “unique,” why did that “Creator” have to create a universe that is so unfathomably large, and then have to wait 16 billion years before that “unique” Earth spawned human life? I hate to cast aspersions on your deity, but your god is one slow and inefficient creator.


20 posted on 08/07/2008 11:08:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeForever
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To: BuckeyeForever

Two fleas were sitting on a dog.

One flea said to the flea: “There is no dog.”


21 posted on 08/07/2008 11:10:52 PM PDT by bethtopaz (The U.S. Mail Service published Obama's resume on a new first class stamp.)
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To: BuckeyeForever

I don’t pretend to know the mind of God, whose ways are past our finding out. Someone touting physics so, should know better than to ask such a question. It is the essence of relativity. Time is relative to the observer (you and I) and God is not subject to the physics of tiny minds who know only an infinitesimal amount of what there is to know. As a matter of fact, they don’t even know, what there is to be known, that they don’t know.

You observe only the terrestrial, but God the celestial. You state times relative only to your observations. The Creator is not subject to time and knows no time except that which he has used for the understanding of men.


28 posted on 08/07/2008 11:45:47 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter isn't opaque.)
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To: BuckeyeForever
I hate to cast aspersions on your deity, but your god is one slow and inefficient creator.

Why would you believe that? 16 Billion years is only a long time to us. How can even a Trillion years be a long time to the Being that created time and space?

Like any artist creating a masterpiece, God has made sure the Frame is worthy of the Picture. The majesty of created time and space does honour to us, who stand at the focal point of His great work. Time and Space are part of His creation, not a constraint under which He must work.

38 posted on 08/08/2008 4:52:40 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: BuckeyeForever
If a “Creator” did some “tuning” to create an Earth that is so “unique,” why did that “Creator” have to create a universe that is so unfathomably large, and then have to wait 16 billion years before that “unique” Earth spawned human life? I hate to cast aspersions on your deity, but your god is one slow and inefficient creator.

Well, He's God and I'm not. I don't pretend to understand His mind or what the concept of 16 billion years means to Him. He made time. Do you see how meaningless it is to judge the maker of time by our ideas about how He should have accomplished things or how we could have done a better or more efficient job of creation. The Soviet Union was a very small scale attempt at "creation."

47 posted on 08/08/2008 6:07:39 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: BuckeyeForever
I don't think our concept of time is the same as the creator's. Our days are based upon the rotation of the Earth - It's doubful he uses the same method. Who knows - maybe one of his days is a thousand years to us.

I understand your skepticism - there is no hard evidence of a creator, no videotaped proof and no direct involvement in human affairs in 2000 years. He puts a lot of emphasis on faith, which is something totally at odds with science. I feel completely comfortable and confident in my faith in a creator. I also love science and what it stands for.

There is no contradiction as far as I'm concerned, and in the end when I die, I'll either be proven completely wrong or completely right. If it is as God says, however, I'd rather err on his side.

65 posted on 08/08/2008 7:50:02 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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To: BuckeyeForever

If a “Creator” did some “tuning” to create an Earth that is so “unique,” why did that “Creator” have to create a universe that is so unfathomably large, and then have to wait 16 billion years before that “unique” Earth spawned human life? I hate to cast aspersions on your deity, but your god is one slow and inefficient creator.


God may look at time a little differently than you.

I don’t know many answers but one thing the evidence tells me is that we can’t be a random act of chance. The law of entropy makes sense to me - order to disorder.

We will all die and know the truth at that point. Place your bets...................


71 posted on 08/08/2008 8:04:21 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: BuckeyeForever
If a “Creator” did some “tuning” to create an Earth that is so “unique,” why did that “Creator” have to create a universe that is so unfathomably large, and then have to wait 16 billion years before that “unique” Earth spawned human life? I hate to cast aspersions on your deity, but your god is one slow and inefficient creator.

Perhaps he wanted to show us in the physical universe a reflection of his nature, his character: infinite, eternal, long-suffering, artistic, ordered and, yes, creative too...

109 posted on 04/02/2011 6:19:52 PM PDT by IFly4Him
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