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1 posted on 08/07/2008 9:57:24 PM PDT by neverdem
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Gas Disks to Gas Giants: Simulating the Birth of Planetary Systems

Hat tip to Matchett-PI. He gave me the link on another thread.

2 posted on 08/07/2008 10:05:23 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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Creationists have been talking about this for years - it is called the Anthropic Principle. And the concept was developed initially by non-creationists.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 10:06:23 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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There are billion of galaxies with systems they can't even detect...

“Although we may be weird, we’re by no means unique,” he says.

No kidding?

4 posted on 08/07/2008 10:08:59 PM PDT by dragnet2
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I am old enough to remember way back when we did not have the technology to detect planets around other stars. Most scientists believed that planets were extremely rare.

A few of us, who believed in conservation of angular momentum, felt that planets were fairly common, but we just didn’t have the technology to see them.

Now that we have the technology to see planets, but not earth-like ones, we have started to believe that planets are common, but earth-like planets are rare.

In a few more years we will be able to detect earth-like planets, and will discover that there are a lot more of them than anyone suspected...


6 posted on 08/07/2008 10:15:45 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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These scientists better keep working hard to find my home.


12 posted on 08/07/2008 10:51:20 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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‘Slow Life’ and its Implications

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13 posted on 08/07/2008 10:51:51 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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Thanks for posting this article.


“and those right conditions occur rarely, “

OK. But in an ‘infinite’ universe, rare is still a large number.


15 posted on 08/07/2008 10:58:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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“My help comes from the Lord, Who made heaven and earth.”
— Psalm 121:2

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.”

...

“Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so.”

...

“Thus the heavens and earth were completed, and all their hosts.”

...

“This is an account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven.”

(from verses in Genesis 1 & 2)

19 posted on 08/07/2008 11:07:36 PM PDT by bethtopaz (The U.S. Mail Service published Obama's resume on a new first class stamp.)
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Man, they sure seem to know a lot for a bunch of ‘scientists’ who have never gone anywhere. Pretty easy to set up your own models and your own conditions and then ‘discover’ what you wanted to find in the first place. Sociologists and psychologists do this all the time but the physical sciences can do it too if they put their minds to it.

It’s interesting stuff but in the end it’s conjecture.


30 posted on 08/07/2008 11:59:27 PM PDT by Seruzawa (American Government: Providing Middle Class Incomes to Unemployables for Over 200 Years!)
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er, like one God?


33 posted on 08/08/2008 2:57:58 AM PDT by Waco
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From the macro to the micro, this stuff doesn't 'just happen'. It has all be fearfully and wonderfully made.
35 posted on 08/08/2008 3:21:13 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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It is so silly wasting time on this stuff. Don't you know the entire universe is just an illusion?
36 posted on 08/08/2008 4:07:43 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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Goldilocks isn’t the only one who demanded everything to be "just right."

I vote for this entry for the stupidest beginning line ever.

41 posted on 08/08/2008 5:17:39 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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“The Earth and its fellow seven planets ...”

Will I’m a little confused, how many planets are there in the Solar System?


43 posted on 08/08/2008 6:00:12 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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...The simulation, based on data from the 307 exoplanets discovered to date, finds…

Given the vastness and great age of the Universe, a sampling of 307 exoplanets that we’ve observed so far that are currently within our puny range of observation, doesn’t really seem all that conclusive in my opinion.

Sort of like if I went fishing in a few small ponds within a day’s drive from my house, only catching a fish in one and not in any of the others, and then declaring that ponds with fish are extremely rare.
44 posted on 08/08/2008 6:00:37 AM PDT by Caramelgal (Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
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Only the exact events and circumstances that produced this planet will produce a planet exactly like this? Wow.


70 posted on 08/08/2008 8:03:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: neverdem
1+1=2.

change anything in the above equation and you won't get the same result in the same exact way.

Every solar system in every galaxy formed in an EXACT way. Some even more improbable than ours.

Yet another one of sciences "duh" moments...

72 posted on 08/08/2008 8:09:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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Probability of the universe forming the way it did: 1 in Billions / Trillions / Gazillions / Brazilians (LOL-great joke, btw)

Probability of individual sperm cell containing "you" impregnating the egg: 1 in Millions

Combine all that, and...

Probability of you actually coming to exist: RIDICULOUSLY SMALL.

I like thinking of it that way, haha.

81 posted on 08/08/2008 8:42:37 AM PDT by cdbull23 (What's going on in my brain? Check it out: www.cainsbrain.com)
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bump


86 posted on 08/08/2008 9:35:00 AM PDT by VOA
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It’s as if the universe was designed... Hmm... :)


90 posted on 08/08/2008 9:42:10 AM PDT by dmanLA
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