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Suddenly being green is not cool any more...
The Times ^ | August 7, 2008 | Alice Thomson

Posted on 08/07/2008 2:18:35 PM PDT by shotgun

"It's not just the economic downturn that has harmed the green order. People have become wary of environmental causes that can turn out to do more harm than good. They don't want wind turbines marching across Britain's moors when nuclear power stations can do more to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. They worry that washing and bleaching all those non-disposable nappies may be damaging the ozone layer, that the massive incentives for biofuels have distorted the world food market, and that green taxes are actually stealth taxes."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: environment; environmentlist; globalwarming; green; greens
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1 posted on 08/07/2008 2:18:35 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

Green steaming... has become the old brown steaming...


2 posted on 08/07/2008 2:19:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: shotgun

In other words people are coming to their senses.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 2:19:56 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: shotgun

Voters are green as long as it doesn’t cost them green.


4 posted on 08/07/2008 2:20:41 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Green steaming, is this season’s new brown steaming...

There. Fixed it.


5 posted on 08/07/2008 2:21:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: shotgun

. . . and the pendulum reverses course.


6 posted on 08/07/2008 2:21:52 PM PDT by surely_you_jest ( Obamarrhoids are a pain in the ass . . . .)
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To: shotgun
'and that green taxes are actually stealth taxes.'

Taxes don't stay stealth for very long.

7 posted on 08/07/2008 2:22:02 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: shotgun

Out in my neck of the woods, the LA DWP is erecting an enormous windmill farm in the Tehachapis, then sending the power over another huge set of hulking transmission lines across the Angeles National Forest to LA, so the NIMBY’s down there can preen themselves on how “green” they are. Meanwhile, their wonderful project defaces the landscape up here and raises the risk of wildfire from transmission lines knocked down by the Santa Ana winds.

The pc brand of environmentalism kills, and destroys. But I believe that is actually its purpose.


8 posted on 08/07/2008 2:24:02 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: shotgun

It ain’t easy being green. Kermit the Frog


9 posted on 08/07/2008 2:24:59 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: shotgun

...” and that green taxes are actually stealth taxes....”

...yep and not to mention all the proposed laws, regulations and red tape the Greens have in mind for us...the costs of which will be passed on to the consumer.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 2:26:46 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Always Right
Taxes don't stay stealth for very long.

John Q has no idea what he pays in taxes.

A $200.00 car rental winds up $270.00 by the time the fees (tax), and taxes are added on.

Same thing with damn near any other bill. Hotels, airline tickets, telephone...

11 posted on 08/07/2008 2:26:55 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: shotgun

I like the line:

GREEN MEANS TAXES!


12 posted on 08/07/2008 2:28:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DoughtyOne

Tell McCain and his lib bud Rooty that.


13 posted on 08/07/2008 2:28:14 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: shotgun

Yeah... reminds me of a photo I saw of a “Green” festival.... an environmental concert thing that was held outside.

The photo showed the aftermath when everyone had left and there were thousands of water bottles laying around on the ground among other trash. One field that was used for parking (from the gas powered cars that the hundreds of people drove there) turned to a muddy slop from the tire tracks.


14 posted on 08/07/2008 2:28:59 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: Argus

Not to mention they are known to be killing many birds.


15 posted on 08/07/2008 2:29:25 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: shotgun
People have become wary of environmental causes that can turn out to do more harm than good.

Like turning off domestic oil/energy supplies.

16 posted on 08/07/2008 2:31:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: shotgun
“...that the tolerance for green taxes may have peaked ...”

This is exactly why I was happy to see “carbon taxes” introduced in British Columbia. They are one of the “least worst” solutions to the non-problem of AGW. Unlike the hidden costs (and reduced freedom) that come with regulations — carbon taxes are transparent (at least in part). Everyone sees the tax bite when they gas up, or when they buy heating fuel.

John and Janet Q. Public were all in favour of “fighting global warming”; when they were still freshly brainwashed into thinking that all that would be required is screwing in curly light bulbs (and then turning them off), plus copping a righteous attitude. Now that it's starting to hit the pocketbook; they've become a bit more skeptical about the “green” (actually watermelon) propaganda.

Also, I think that the “green movement” jumped the shark when they started campaigning to ban bottled water (in convenient, recyclable containers). They overlooked the fact that nearly all of their supporters buy the stuff.

17 posted on 08/07/2008 2:32:32 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: shotgun
Mr Obama has been talking more about thrift than trees. Instead of showing off his recycling skills, he explains that his children don't receive Christmas or birthday presents.

Christian children receive Christmas and birthday presents. Muslim children do NOT receive Christmas and birthday presents.

18 posted on 08/07/2008 2:34:22 PM PDT by xtinct
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To: Argus; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Randy Larsen; NormsRevenge; ...
Wull, that's nuthin... Uh here in the Schwartzenegger Sierra-Nevada CONservancy all our water runs down to Folsom Reservoir and becomes Sacramento's drinkin water so we peed in it whenever they pist us off with more taxation.

Now comes the bad part! The prevailin wind comes from the ocean and Bay Delta up to us here in the Schwartzenegger Sierra-Nevada CONservancy so they just git even with us for peein in their drinkin water by fartin in every other whirlwind and de-tunin their cars by lettin the air outta their danged tires!!!

And so it goes, day in and day out till Schwartzenegger helps the GovernMental EnvironMental members of GANG-GREEN create more boxes that Arnold will NEVER git around to blowin up!!!

19 posted on 08/07/2008 2:34:45 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: SierraWasp
Uh here in the Schwartzenegger Sierra-Nevada CONservancy all our water runs down to Folsom Reservoir and becomes Sacramento's drinkin water so we peed in it whenever they pist us off with more taxation.

In my end of the county all our water comes from wells, but thanks for the warning. I won't be drinking tap water when I'm at work.

20 posted on 08/07/2008 2:40:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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