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Why Is It So Nasty, So Soon?(Why don't you Rollover and Play Dead Alert)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com ^ | August 07, 2008 | David Broder

Posted on 08/07/2008 11:25:11 AM PDT by Maelstorm

"And ultimately, the best corrective to overly negative campaigns are the American people, who are not interested in a lot of bickering, but are interested in who's got the best answers for the country."

I think everybody would agree to that last point.

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KEYWORDS: 2008; ads; broder; david; insane; mccain; obama
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I totally disagree. This is insane. Republicans have a death wish if they agree with this. Liberals only survive when conservatives fail to contrast their conservatism with liberalism.

Roger Wicker would be losing in Mississippi right now if he took this approach. He's not because of his substance and because he is fighting. If we were taking a more scorched earth approach more liberal Democrat incumbents would be in jeopardy right now. Durbin, Levin, Rockefeller, Reed all are far to the left of their constitutes. If letting the people know what Democrats want to do to them is negative then so be it. They want to raise taxes, they want to grow government, they want to satisfy environmental activists, they want to satisfy sexual activists and those goals are indeed negative. Letting the people know is not negative it is a public service.

1 posted on 08/07/2008 11:25:11 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm
From "Calvin and Hobbes" -- the game of CalvinBall. Sample rule:

Any player may declare a new rule at any point in the game. The player may do this audibly or silently depending on what zone the player is in.

Example of use: Negative campaigning is perfectly fine, until that type of ad starts to hurt Obama. At such a point, a rule against negative campaigning will be issued by the media.

2 posted on 08/07/2008 11:29:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Maelstorm
"the American people, who are not interested in a lot of bickering"

I am.

3 posted on 08/07/2008 11:32:45 AM PDT by Dutchgirl ("All you need to know about Obama is this: Farrakhan really wants him to be president."-Feder)
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To: Dutchgirl

The American people adore bickering.

Mr. Broder thinks this is a “nasty” campaign? Well, he’s not as well informed as I thought he was.

He should take a look at what the Democratic press was calling Abraham Lincoln in the 1860 campaign. That rhetoric would revolt him.


4 posted on 08/07/2008 11:35:42 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Dutchgirl

Me too..Politics are soap operas sometimes IMO.


5 posted on 08/07/2008 11:36:23 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
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To: Maelstorm
I haven't seen any real nastiness yet. I've seen some good humor from McCain and reactive petulance from Obama. The only foray into ugliness was Obama playing the race card. McCain's response was quick and effective. I haven't heard His O’lyness bring it up again.
6 posted on 08/07/2008 11:37:51 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: Maelstorm
This comes up every year. Why do politicians use negative ads despite poll saying the public doesn't like them? Because the public isn't being truthful. They work.

And there's the little problem of what's negative. Liberals think they never are negative, but they think conservatives who simply contrast their positions with the liberal positions of their opponent are being horribly negative.

7 posted on 08/07/2008 11:39:41 AM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: RexBeach
The American people adore bickering.

Absolutely correct. This type of politics is about as American as it can get and it's been going on ever since people started bickering about that illegitimate child of Jefferson's. I really grow tired of the usual media whining about negative campaigning.

8 posted on 08/07/2008 11:40:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Maelstorm

The left has never campaigned on issues.

Unless they made them up themselves (eg, healthcare crisis in 1992).


9 posted on 08/07/2008 11:42:42 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Dutchgirl

This notion of bypartianship is ridiculous.
Until the liberals believe in individual liberty and economic freedom, we should fight them tooth and nail. Whenever we reach ‘across the aisle’, we become ‘Bloody Stump Republicans’ because the leftists’ issues are not based in freedom!
The current display in the House is an example. Here we are practically on our knees begging our reps to ALLOW us to drill our own oil. Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves at the thought of the government having this much control over commerce!


10 posted on 08/07/2008 11:43:40 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Maelstorm
David Broder, the Dean of MSM journalism.

The next republican he votes for will be the first.

11 posted on 08/07/2008 11:43:39 AM PDT by AU72
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To: tbpiper
The only foray into ugliness was Obama playing the race card.

Obama has also made overt references to McCain's age.

12 posted on 08/07/2008 11:46:55 AM PDT by AU72
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Broder is playing dumb.

He KNOWS Americans love, love, love, bickering....battle....competitions...contests....and they love it..

Dems like Broder write this propaganda because libs HATE debate....there side cannot win without unfair advantage of the MSM.

13 posted on 08/07/2008 11:47:33 AM PDT by roses of sharon (SAVE YOUR GAS RECIEPTS, SEND TO PELOSI!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Nailed it! Also, recall that all during the Dem primary there was NO negative campaigning between Hillary and Obama. Campaigning in that instance was always “hard-fought” or some other euphemism. Now with a Republican in a political race, the rule changes and it's “negative, low road mudslinging”

Oh yeah, David Broder is a non-partisan political observer, just like Bill Schneider over at CNN. /s

14 posted on 08/07/2008 11:52:18 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: rhombus

Negative campaigning is more fun...and it works!

Thanks for your note.


15 posted on 08/07/2008 11:54:18 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Maelstorm

Broder runs around bleating this same trope every election cycle. It’s nonsense. This is the tamest I’ve seen (so far).


16 posted on 08/07/2008 11:55:54 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Maelstorm

If it’s the truth, it ain’t nasty.


17 posted on 08/07/2008 12:02:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: Maelstorm

The fallacy in the argument of people like Broder who don’t want “nasty” campaigns is obvious. The candidates themselves will NEVER!!! bring up their own failings, so it’s up to the opponents to point them out. Again this should be obvious to anyone with a scintilla of brainpower, but again the libs have a problem. Obama has so many negatives that they’re left with the strategy of hoping his opponent doesn’t point them out and accusing him of being nasty and deceitful when he does.


18 posted on 08/07/2008 12:15:51 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: ClearCase_guy
Example of use: Negative campaigning is perfectly fine, until that type of ad starts to hurt Obama. At such a point, a rule against negative campaigning will be issued by the media.

Good analogy. I think we saw the same thing when Hillary started gaining momentum in the later primaries. All of sudden, media polls were obsessed with which candidate's campaign tactics were viewed as "negative." Hillary's were, of course, but that stat had no correlation with actual votes.

19 posted on 08/07/2008 12:43:50 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Maelstorm
"And ultimately, the best corrective to overly negative campaigns are the American people, who are not interested in a lot of bickering, but are interested in who's got the best answers for the country."

I think everybody would agree to that last point.

I disagree, Texans LIKE mud-slinging campaigns.

20 posted on 08/07/2008 12:50:07 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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