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The Humble Light Bulb: a victim of political stupidity and green zealotry
The Market Oracle ^ | Jul 31, 2008 | Gerard Jackson

Posted on 08/07/2008 9:39:55 AM PDT by IrishMike

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1 posted on 08/07/2008 9:39:55 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike; Carry_Okie

There’s a reason we refer to them as “Kremlin Bulbs”.


2 posted on 08/07/2008 9:45:01 AM PDT by sauropod (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: IrishMike

Good article that includes a great discussion on 2 aspects that the Econ Illiterates will never admit: Opportunity & Future Cost. Read and appreciate 2 of the powerful core decision making principles of Applied Economics.


3 posted on 08/07/2008 9:46:17 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: IrishMike
All mercury-containing products must be disposed of responsibly. As more of us adopt CFLs to help save energy and contribute to a better environment, it becomes more important that our community has a recycling programme for mercury and other environmentally unsafe materials.

Ka-ching!

This is how the asbestos-disposal industry got started.

Always follow the money.

4 posted on 08/07/2008 9:46:38 AM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: IrishMike

I put the compact fluorescents all over in my house because I got sick to death of replacing incandescents which the old wiring in my house wreaked havoc with. Plus, I usually have my house lit up like a Christmas tree, and these bulbs really do cut down on the bill.


5 posted on 08/07/2008 9:48:36 AM PDT by SoDak (Anything but obama)
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To: IrishMike
The issue that this article doesn't take into effect is that the cost of the fluorescent bulbs has dropped dramatically.

I can now buy an 8 pack for as little as $8. The price is not quite as cheap as incandescent lighting but the gap has diminished greatly.

There are some drawbacks but the operational cost savings in my home have been substantial. Also not mentioned is they do not burn out as quickly as incandescent lights.

6 posted on 08/07/2008 9:48:54 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: SoDak
I got sick to death of replacing incandescents which the old wiring in my house wreaked havoc with.

Same here. Bulbs I used to have to replace every two months were changed to CFs that are still going strong after two years.

7 posted on 08/07/2008 9:51:05 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: IrishMike

Tungsten is radioactive.


8 posted on 08/07/2008 9:52:51 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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>I put the compact fluorescents all over in my house because I got sick to death of replacing incandescents which the old wiring in my house wreaked havoc with. <

I have them also. It’s my CHOICE. I resent Big Nanny forcing me to choose them in the future, in fixtures they’re not designed for.

I like my old fashioned toilet, and my top loading washing machine. MY choice, not some bean pushing government drone’s.


9 posted on 08/07/2008 9:54:37 AM PDT by Darnright (A penny saved is a government oversight)
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To: nevergore
Also not mentioned is they do not burn out as quickly as incandescent lights.

From a purely anecdotal outlook I call bs (lowercase).

I've bought a total of three of these types of light bulbs.
Two burned out within a month.

10 posted on 08/07/2008 9:55:47 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: IrishMike
The message I get here is that there is rational arguments for either choice.

What there should be no argument about is the interferance of the bureaucrat, or the scientific and economic idiot, into the free market which has worked exquisitely well for quite a while now.

Passing laws that eliminate individual choice almost always makes things worse.

Unintended consequences, etc.

11 posted on 08/07/2008 9:56:24 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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Bump!


12 posted on 08/07/2008 9:57:06 AM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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Oh, I have no disagreement with that at all. I’m merely stating that I do use them, and giving the reasons why.


13 posted on 08/07/2008 9:57:19 AM PDT by SoDak (Anything but obama)
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To: Just another Joe

My anecdote is that I have not had to buy a replacement bulb, in my 2100 sq ft house in more than 2 years.


14 posted on 08/07/2008 9:59:08 AM PDT by SoDak (Anything but obama)
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I put the compact fluorescents all over in my house because I got sick to death of replacing incandescents which the old wiring in my house wreaked havoc with. Plus, I usually have my house lit up like a Christmas tree, and these bulbs really do cut down on the bill.

As did I, about 8 years ago. But it was my choice.

Isn't it wonderful to know that, just as I freely made that choice then, I can switch back to incandescents whenever I choose to?

Wait.
...never mind...

15 posted on 08/07/2008 9:59:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: nevergore

The issue is personal choice VS government micro mandating.


16 posted on 08/07/2008 10:00:53 AM PDT by IrishMike (Obama stands for change. He wants to change the subject.)
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I never pass up a sale on 100 watt light bulbs when I can get four for 50 cents.


17 posted on 08/07/2008 10:06:51 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: SoDak
My anecdote is that I have not had to buy a replacement bulb, in my 2100 sq ft house in more than 2 years.

Yeh, I know, I may have got a bad batch.
Empirically, they are known to last longer.

I just can't bring myself to like them though.

18 posted on 08/07/2008 10:07:27 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Most of the energy consumption comparisons between the two types of bulbs assume that lights are left on for long periods of time, on the order of 12 to 24 hours per day. In most household settings, however, this is completely unrealistic. Think of the hall entry light or the bedside reading lamp. In the real world, economic payback will rarely ever be reached because frequent on-off cycles, while not harming the incandescent lamp, will prematurely kill the florescent light long before the energy usage crossover point is reached.


19 posted on 08/07/2008 10:08:21 AM PDT by charleywhiskey
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That has been my experience also. They burn out almost as quick and cost me more.


20 posted on 08/07/2008 10:11:31 AM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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