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It Ain’t Over ‘Till The Fat Lady Sings - - And She Just Hired New Songwriters (Hillary 4 Prez?)
Friends and Fiends at Network and in DC | MB26

Posted on 08/07/2008 5:41:15 AM PDT by MindBender26

It Ain’t Over ‘Till The Fat Lady Sings - - And She Just Hired New Songwriters

The Washington – New York news phones lines were buzzing last night and again this morning. The news is considered so volatile two national news producers were telephoned after 11:30 last night for their input. The story? Hillary Clinton is removing her support (such as it was) from Barack Obama and plans for a knock-down floor fight for the nomination at the Democrat Convention in Denver.

The reason for this is simple, she thinks she can win the nomination, and only she can win the General, and so do many top old line Dems.

Support for Obama from the Washington Dem power elite has been all but absent in the last month. The Super Senators, Kennedy, Biden, Dodd, Schumer and others have not been making headlines for Obama. Terry McAuliffe has been all but silent, and “Screamin’ Dean”; who pressed his mute button? The two co-chairs of the national “Our Great-Great-Great Grandfathers were oppressed… so give us money” crusade, Jackson and Sharpton must be on tour in Mongolia, because they haven’t been making headlines for Obama here.

One overriding argument pervades all their thinking, Obama can’t win the National, and Hillary can. The poll results after Obama’s “We Is The World” tour have been a disaster. It provided a dip, rather than a bump for Barack! Pollsters expected him to be at least 12 to 14 points ahead now, and he is even at best. Obama always gets results about 4% less than he polls, so if the election were held today, it would be McCain in monstrous win.

The Obama decline is clearly indicated in one supposed battleground state, Florida. Obama was up until recently. Now Obama is now down 6 among all voters and one reliable unreleased poll has McCain up 8 among the likely voters. On top of it all, Obama is still sinking, and what possible new message to attract voters does he have? When he shouts “We Must Change”, the crowd is thinking, “Oh, he’s changing his position again.”

I was with him in Lakeland last week (on assignment.) The small crowd was NOT pumped at all.

With that in mind, Hillary is warming up the crowds, and the hormones. She has had the Summer off. She is rested. There was plenty of time for charm lessons.

She can go to Denver not officially supporting, but certainly not discouraging, a floor vote movement. Her mantra? “Count Every Vote!”

The upstart’s message would be very clear; “We Want Hillary For President, and She Wants It Too!”

Hillary would never attack Obama publicly, but loudly decry “Those Republicans for Barack’s disastrous slide in the polls.”

Remember, she is only a few votes behind him in the Dem delegate count, has never released her delegates, and the delegates, especially the Superdelegates, can vote for whomever they wish. There is no legal mandate to support the candidate they promised to support back when they were elected in the primaries.”

Who would support Hillary? The list is extensive.

First, old line Dem Labor. They have votes, a “volunteering” machine and money…. and are far from wild about Obama.

Secondly, the Gay vote. They rarely declare WHY they are for a candidate, but they have huge amounts of money, and are madly in love with Hillary (in more ways than one, perhaps?)

The Dem political machine, all the way down to county level. They want coattails.

The Hispanic vote. Hispanics don’t like Obama, (or Blacks in general) very much. Hispanics love Hillary.

The Women. Down deep, the Rev. Wright may be acceptable to the far-left wing of the Dem party but he scares the hell out of middle of the road women. Dems can expect the Republican 527s to pound that Rev. Wright-Obama connection again and again in the General.

Hard-core Feminists. Do we need an explanation here?

Finally, the Black vote! Of course there would be a revolt in the ranks… for about 10 days. But then Jackson and Sharpton would explain that it was necessary because of the all the damage Republicans had done to Obama…. and a Clinton - -Obama ticket is orgasmic for Dems.

Why would Jackson and Sharpton be onboard? Because they have to be, and because they hate Obama. He didn’t “pay his dues in blood in the streets of Selma.” He didn’t “March with Martin.”

Worst of all for them, an Obama in the White House takes away all the “Poor Oppressed Black People Need Government Help… (and our help, personally) rap that has empowered Jackson and Sharpton for decades. Also, Obama is an ACORN man, not Rainbow/PUSH or National Action Network.

Obama would be told, “You cannot win. That’s your fault. Take the VP slot and smile… and be President in eight years, or leave quietly now.”

Bottom line, Hillary reassembles the entire classic Democrat – Liberal coalitions Dems need to win. High-level Dems are not dumb, at least not stupid, at least in the world of down and dirty electoral politics. They will do what they need to do to win.

In the end, the media would love the fight and the Obama supporters would hate it… for a few weeks, then fall in line behind Hillary. They are pragmatists, not racial ideologs. They would do anything to defeat McCain.

Will this happen? Time will tell, but Hillary is certainly, and quietly, pushing it very hard.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008dncconvention; demagogues; democrats; dnc; hillary; obama; operationchaos
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To: mathluv
mathluv wrote:
hellary has been off the radar, and so has bill, all summer - while The One has not been able to pull it out. mccain has been successful against osamabama with his ads. Can he do the same against hellary?

Reply:

I have a feeling that the next 12 weeks will not be dull no matter who a person supports or the scenario of VP candidates.

Obama is all glitter and no substance, sort of like a movie set with all those fake false front buildings.

I do find it odd that something is a foot in the Obama tank where the MSM is located.

Even Obamas 97% Media supporters have been somewhat quite.

41 posted on 08/07/2008 6:15:45 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: CPOSharky

Does anyone here really think that the blacks will riot if that were to happen?


42 posted on 08/07/2008 6:16:43 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: OKIEDOC

The only thing now that can do in Obama is being caught in bed with a dead woman or a live boy.


43 posted on 08/07/2008 6:18:47 AM PDT by AU72
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To: MindBender26

First off she is now the keynote speaker. Secondly, it’s been reported here and elsewhere that she has told her delegates NOT to nominate her and pledge votes to her at the convention.

I think it would be a fiasco if she were to change her tune now.

For one thing, Obama has asked her to give the keynote address. What is she going to do? Use that to nominate herself?

This article, or I should say this “vanity” says nothing factual and will probably be pulled.


44 posted on 08/07/2008 6:19:58 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: TexasRedeye

“I actually believe this scenario. When Bill Clinton absolutely refused top endorse the Dalibama only saying that he was “qualified” to be pres by the definition in the Constitution, that did for me. The fight is on!”

I actually thought the very same thing when I heard rush play this clip the other day? Anyone know if anyone asked Rushed about that “Constitutional” comment?


45 posted on 08/07/2008 6:21:09 AM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: wequalswinner

Oh yeah.


46 posted on 08/07/2008 6:21:36 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: mathluv
hellary has been off the radar, and so has bill, all summer - while The One has not been able to pull it out. mccain has been successful against osamabama with his ads. Can he do the same against hellary?

Obama had a lot of trouble putting hIllary away in the primaries. That showed he was weak.

If the Clinton's had remained highly visible over the past couple of months, a Dem might argue that they were stealing Obama's thunder, hogging the spotlight, stopping him from getting traction. But they cleverly disappeared. Obama has had the spotlight to himself. And he has done nothing but screw up. He can't gain traction. He's just showing everyone how weak he is.

I think that a lot of Dems would welcome the chance to dump him. I do think Hillary will try something at the convention. I don't know if she'll succeed, and I do think she will destroy her party if she does succeed. But the Clinton's don't go quietly -- the fact that they've been quiet for the past few months is just evidence that they've got a plan.

47 posted on 08/07/2008 6:21:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: MindBender26

The only thing that scares me more than Hillary is Obama.
But then I don’t think Obama is electable.
Hillary is!
Things are not always as they seem, are they?

My you live in interesting times.


48 posted on 08/07/2008 6:23:45 AM PDT by Of the People - By the People
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To: OKIEDOC

Rush has said he has Operation Chaos 2 ready to go. Of course, he has also said ‘we are soooo screwed’.


49 posted on 08/07/2008 6:24:54 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: MindBender26

I’ve thought about this scenario for a while now. Although I’m sure she would have preferred an outright coronation, the process we’ve gone through has had a beneficial effect for a Hillary candidacy... she hasn’t been under the scrutiny she would have been.

In fact, she’s beginning to look good in comparison. I think it’s way too early to write her out.


50 posted on 08/07/2008 6:26:28 AM PDT by pgyanke (Public "servants" have decided it's their job to use the public's money to fight the public)
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To: All

Did any of you actually read what MB26 wrote? Or more to the point, have you ever read ANYTHING he has written, and have you taken the time to see what his profession is?

MB26 is a member, well semi-retired, of the media and has numerous contacts in the media and in DC. Read what he wrote again! He is passing on what he is hearing from LIBERALS in Washington.

This is not MB speculating what is going to happen, he is passing on what the people who will be covering it or part of it are saying.

Yes it is opinion, yes it is a vanity, but it is also newsworthy and goes straight to what FOX and others are reporting today. HILLARY is going to fight.


51 posted on 08/07/2008 6:26:44 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: wequalswinner
Does anyone here really think that the blacks will riot if that were to happen?

Yes, me.

52 posted on 08/07/2008 6:26:52 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: mathluv
Rush failed miserably on every account in this elections season and he is proved now to be totally irrelevant an preaching to the choir. The fact that John McCain is the democrat nominee proves that Rush Limbaugh has a huge overrated self importance of himself and his influence over the Republican party.
53 posted on 08/07/2008 6:27:13 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: reagan_fanatic
To throw Barak under the bus at this point and time would throw the blacks into a tizzy of historic proportions and cause widespread rioting and violence.

If his holiness the most revered obamalama (peach be unto him) wins, the blacks will burn the cities in celebration.

if he loses, the blacks will burn the cities in anger

Either way, I see a whole lot of blacks with new tv's (FREE RODNEY KING.....AND GIMME THAT TV)
54 posted on 08/07/2008 6:28:04 AM PDT by jrg
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To: pgkdan

That is one of the most unprofessional articles I have ever read.

I think they were referring to style not content.


55 posted on 08/07/2008 6:30:14 AM PDT by super7man
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To: jrg
Oops...forgot to add.....

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56 posted on 08/07/2008 6:30:49 AM PDT by jrg
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To: AU72
The only thing now that can do in Obama is being caught in bed with a dead woman or a live boy.

Both of those scenarios would increase Dhim turn out.

57 posted on 08/07/2008 6:32:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: MindBender26

If she succeed in stealing the nomination from his hOliness, blacks will abandon her. democrats cannot win without 80% of blacks voting 95% for dems. Maybe the fallout will be a fracture of the stupid alignment blacks have had with the party that hates them so.


58 posted on 08/07/2008 6:34:54 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: wequalswinner
wequalswinner wrote:
Does anyone here really think that the blacks will riot if that were to happen?

DO BEARS POOP IN THE FOREST?

59 posted on 08/07/2008 6:35:00 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC
Even Obamas 97% Media supporters have been somewhat quite.

Apologies to the Righteous Brothers:

You've lost that tingly feeling.

Whoa-oh that tingly feel-uh-ing.

You've lost that tingly feeling on your le-eh-eg

On your leg, whoa, whoa, on your leg.

60 posted on 08/07/2008 6:35:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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