Could Obama still lose the nomination? (Maybe!)

American Thinker ^ | August 07, 2008 | Denis Keohane

[AmericaUnited]

if a hundred and twenty or so super delegates to sit out the first ballot, Obama does not get the nomination on the first ballot and perhaps not at all. After that first vote a great many pledged delegates and all the super delegates are free to vote as they choose.

Folks! That's a very small amount...

[igoramus08]

Hillarys only hope is if the Michelle whitey tape exists and she leaks it one week before the convention.

[gridlock]

How many points down does Obama have to be in the polls for the Superdelegates to decide they want a real vote at the Convention? At the end of the day, they want to win.

A glorious loss is still a loss. Obama cannot beat McCain.

[wafflehouse]

LOL

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

“finally wondering if maybe that scumbag Obama was born overseas and is NOT a natural born citizen”

The fake birth certificate reports could be something the Clintons have been up to. Maybe they threw out a few hints, not wanting their own fingerprints on it. I hope Techdude holds off until after the convention. FRegards ....

[rbg81]

She will not win, but I have postulated that Hillary could be behind BO’s small (or less) lead in the polls. She could tell her supporters to answer John McCain when polled. If BO shows enough weakness, he will be forced to take her on as his VP pick. After that, his days are numbered.

[AmericaUnited]

Maybe they threw out a few hints, not wanting their own fingerprints on it

Haha. The latest on the TexasDarling site has a "guest" who recommends the following:

"It may be that the best challenge will come from a totally “red” state, where Obama has no chance… a red state SOS challenging Obama’s eligibility under the Constitution—would make news and problems for Obama."

Trying to put GOP fingerprints on it.

[AmericaUnited]

She could tell her supporters to answer John McCain when polled.

No need for the grand conspiracy stuff, they really do hate the Empty Suit.

[calex59]

The fake birth certificate reports could be something the Clintons have been up to. Maybe they threw out a few hints, not wanting their own fingerprints on it. I hope Techdude holds off until after the convention. FRegards ....

Actually techdude has already released the info on whose birth certificate was used as a blank to forge Obamaosama's COLB. He is preparing a full report but the documents he released already clearly show Obamaosama's COLB to be fake. For a clear look, go to the texasdarling web site and check out the documents.

I think Hillary and Bill are behind this examination since Texasdarling is clearly a Hillary site. I think you are correct in that they(Hill and Bill) don't want to appear as having been the ones who searched for and found the fake doc.

What I want to know is this: Why did McCain have to prove his eligibility, even when it is clear that under the constitution he is a natural born citizen, but Obama, whose citizenship is murky at best, doesn't have to produce his original COLB. That alone(not producing the real COLB)screams that there is something very wrong with his birth in regards to his eligibility for office of President, IMO.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Regarding the double standard of McCain and OB with citizenship, most of the drive-by media wants to make OB a Soveit-style kamazar [for starters] the way they did the Clintons up until OB kicked Hellery’s tail in the primary. There’s a power struggle between the Clintonista and the OB camp, which might be making you confused.

If OB is taken out, there will be a shift to cover the next rat leader’s tail.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I almost forgot to thank you, Calex, for the in-depth knowledge about the fake birth certificate. Yep, it’s the Clintons. They are biding their time and have as much as possible triggered by people outside their circle. I would not be surprised if Techdude is actually a patriot. [The poor guy might need to change his web-name.] This is going to get even stranger. I’m glad we have truckloads of knowledge about Hillary, her brothers, and her husband. We must keep our powder dry.

FRegards ....

[Ann Archy]

The Clinton’s PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS have been digging deep, and I do also think his birth certificate could be the key to Hillary’s comeback.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

The Comeback Witch.

[Drumbo]

If this was a set-up from the start...

Link: Sen. Obama Wants Florida, Michigan Delegates To Have Full Voting Rights

Link: Sen. Hillary Clinton Seeks Democratic Convention Voice

Don't underestimate the bait & switch tactics of the democrats. If this was a set-up from the start, Hill and Barry could turn Denver into a real love-fest. In my nightmares, Hillary steps forward to take her destiny, Obama admits he's inexperienced with only 120 days in the Senate (while spiraling in the polls) and the press will eat it up. Obamie becomes Mrs. Clinton’s VP running mate and heir apparent to the future (sixteen years of sustained democratic reign in the White House).

Stranger things have happened in the Dem-zone – especially when the Clintons stir the pot and it's really the only way the democrats can possibly heal the current party rifts. Think about it. Barack is not going to win this race the way he's going now. This time last election cycle John Kerry was almost 20 polling points ahead of Dubya and he still lost. By the most optimistic poll, Obama is 7 points ahead and most have a statistical tie and some even favor McCain. The loyal Hillary folks (PartyUnityMyA--) are on the warpath and planning to march on Denver demanding Hillary be nominated. “COUNT THE VOTES” is their battle cry. At this late date Hillary hasn’t released a single delegate, and you have to wonder why Obama is suddenly calling for the Michigan and Florida delegates to be counted – and not just the remaining delegates after the democratic party penalties, but ALL OF THEM. That would put Hillary’s delegate count so close to his that just a few super-delegates could put her in the lead. But, if Hillary snags the nomination away from the "chosen one" and snubs him, many say there would be civil disobedience to make the Rodney King riots look like a Saturday night in Podunk and they would take PUMA to a new level.

But, if this was a set-up from the start... was it to keep the heat and scrutiny off of Hillary these last couple of months while she’s been resting up and scheming. Wolfson moved from Hillary's handler to Obama's without a glitch or much notice - is he the liberal Carl Rove, charged with shepherding in the Clinton/Obama dream ticket? Obama took the slings and arrows, the media “scrutiny” and "kept hope alive" and now he will be rewarded with the VP slot in the Clinton administration and a real shot at White House in the future. Everyone who thinks about it says hey, that’s just crazy enough to work.

You have to wonder what the Clintons are up to. Just days ago (August 4th) Bill Clinton, who on July 18th said he “was ready to campaign for Obama,” passed up a perfect opportunity to endorse him, asking: “Is anyone ready on day one to be president?” … and cryptically added, “You can argue that even if you've been vice president for eight years, that no one can be fully ready for the pressures of the office." Huh? You could, I suppose, but are we talking about Al Gore or Dick Cheney here Bill? The question was - is Obama ready? In classic Clinton style, he answered the question with questions of his own and perhaps revealed the only scenario that makes any sense and fits all the mounting evidence. Is Barry asking whether a guaranteed VP slot now and coattails into the presidency in eight years is better than a crap-shoot in 2008 and a possible crash & burn without the Clinton “Machine”? You betcha he’s smart enough to have bought into this. Was this the Clinton backup plan all along or have I been drinking the Kool-aide too long?

If Barry goes to his "base" with one of his scripted teleprompter coup de grace “Berlin” messiah-moments in Denver and says he's happy to stand aside - no, "Stand UNITED" - and learn at the master's knee, I suspect the only riots would be across-the-board jubilation by the democrats and a chorus of Kum-bah-yah from the main stream media. Talk about a juggernaut! The talking heads would need to add a few hours to the 24-hour news cycle if it plays out like that. It would turn things upside down and we'd have a whole new ballgame 'lil buckaroos.

Just my 2¢

[MortMan]

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

[AmericaUnited]

I was being facetious...

[AmericaUnited]

You whole scenario is absurd. Barry can’t admit he’s not ready to be POTRUS and then claim to be qualified to be “one heartbeat away” as VP.

[AmericaUnited]

POTRUS = President Of The Red United States. :)

[MortMan]

I know you were being facetious. I was quoting the next line in the movie. ;-P

[LS]

Agreed. The one thing the Dems will NOT do this year is “un-nominate” the Messiah, no matter how bad it looks for them. The fools hitched their wagon to this lame horse, and have to ride it now all the way to the end, or face completely destroying the party. Come to think of it . . .