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To: DoughtyOne

The women are adults. They are as responsible for their actions as the men are.

How long do women get a pass on following the law because of the way they are trained or abused as children? (Perhaps the original CPS charge was right - there’s a real danger in that the boys and girls are being trained to abuse other boys and girls - their own children - down the line.)

(Personally, there’s no doubt in my mind that by 30 years old or so, men and women should be functional, even if they can’t “get over” abuse as a child.)

They’ve had months to consider their actions. They aren’t being locked up. The children are being removed from their custody.


185 posted on 08/07/2008 4:49:53 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: hocndoc

Hocndoc, there’s simply no reason for me to participate on your thread. I don’t buy the CPS/LE party line down there. And that’s sad to say. I agree things need to be done, but at each step of the way, it has seemed to me that the focus was on the wrong people.

One fix sees all kids pulled out, separated from parents or the adults they were used to.

The next fix deals with removing the kids again, because the men had access.

Now, if I address what I see as problematic and suggest the men be removed, I’m the focus.

It’s pointless for me to come to this thread and explain why I believe what I do. What I say is mostly ignored.

I spent literally hours the other day discussing the issue of removing the men from the ranch. The person I was talking to fought me every step of the way on that issue. And yet after hours of discussion he finally admitted he thought it was a good idea too.

Yes, it was a good idea from the get go, but trying to get folks on this thread to agree with that was next to impossible. Instead we had to argue about it for hours.

All the while, I’m considered to be fronting for the FLDS adults.

I appreciate the information you have posted. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were trying to communicate with the best of intentions. I’m not going to participate any more on this thread.

As a general rule, nobody on these threads wants to hear anything that might be different than what CPS or LE has determined to do. And that’s just not an environment I want to try to converse in.

I agree that something needs to be done. I don’t like the situation at all. I’m not convinced CPS, LE, or the local court has a lick of sense down there. And whether that is true or not, folks are real willing to discuss the matter honestly, at least from what I have experienced on the thread.

Take care.


186 posted on 08/07/2008 8:07:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 2, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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