Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
Scarey stuff.
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The stuff of movies.
my thoughts exactly...I am more concerned about WHERE they are RAISED than where they are born....
Can’t someone demand an investigation with the Hawaiian AG, it must be a felony to forge such a document.
...at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document.Thanks LucyT.
Not even constitutionally, but for security clearance.
Read the DOD’s website regarding security clearance with dual citizenships and/or passports.
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/isp.html
You are right, but instead he chose to use the fake document and put it on his website to fight lies against him.
John / Billybob
"Techdude" claims to have susbstantial credentials and his analysis shows he has significant command of the subject. His analysis also makes good sense and his proof is verifiable by yourself, or anyone else, by following the instructions he provides for you to scrutinize the document as is now on the Obama website.
His analysis article is at here
As to the illogicality of why he needs a forgery, there is a reasonable explanation offered (but not verified) that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but, when his step father and mother wanted to move to Indonesia, they had his original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued in the name of Soetoro (his step father's name), and listing him as a Muslim. This was done to make the move to Indonesia possible.
However, where he was born becomes moot if it is proven that he was party to the forgery of his birth certificate, lied to the American people and concealed his past from them.
If all that is true he isn't fit for public service as dog catcher, so it doesn't matter where he was born or what his religion is/was.
You are correct.
But can a dual citizen get the security clearance for that position? I don’t think the DoD would allow it. They don’t even allow passports holders of other nations to have that clearance of lower level clearance.
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/isp.html
You are right. I did take the word of a journalist who has challenged constitutional law experts to give a final answer on this. But, no, I am not a “law expert”.
My suspicion is that she's out there in the background.
The Clintons always operate by 'remote conrol' so they can maintain 'plausible deniability'.
Look back at how they have carefully kept their 'fingerprints' off a great many events (such as Vince Foster's demise).
They're downright good at it!
Well, all that has changed since then I think. 1986 (?) changed the “five years after 16” issue. I don’t have the source handy and I am in the middle of folding and putting clothes away but got sidetracked by this fascinating subject. ha!
Have you 'verified' his analysis yourself? If so, show us a post-manipulation pic of the 'Maya' name in legible letters. In fact, has anyone produced such a picture anywhere? I haven't seen it.
I thought the same thing. That was a very deliberate statement.
Some of their attacks on Obama have openly come directly from them, but have been sold as supposedly coming from the "right-wingers" even as the words are coming out of their mouths. In other cases, they've managed to circulate the attacks through us. In either case, I believe the pressure is going to increase on Obama to accept her on the ticket until he does. If he embraces her, all of this goes away, it will be dismissed as right-wing-nuttery. With a complicit press it will be easy.
If he doesn't embrace her, the drip-drip-drip continues until he does. Someone will pay him a visit to explain how its going to go, and he'll step up and put a smile on it. By that time he'll be desperate for an out, and she'll be there to save him.
WOW, this is incredible. A person with duel citizenship who is denied security clearance due to ‘foreign influences’ could yet run for U.S. President.
Why am I the only one that can see a huge problem here????
The attacks on Obama were fair game in the primaries, now she has to appear to toe the party line. So the evidence cannot appear it came from her.
This is all if Indonesian citizenship is proven.
That this information is even questionable. I think we just shrugged him going to Indonesia as if we went with our parents and studied abroad. But reading up on this, I realized at that day and time, in a police state, Indonesia would not allow a child to go to public school without being a citizen.
There are alot of things that must be proven, but that they are being questioned is better than not.
bttt
With the screenname AU72 you should know that Barry Goldwater was questioned about eligibility, he was born in the Arizona Territory in 1909, before it was a ratified state.
This forgery brings up serious questions about the dailyKOS.com website, specifically document forgery, but also regarding how anyone, even the far left, can now trust the website, dailyKOS is now banning longtime Hollywood-insider bloggers who are not ardent pro-Obama supporters or anyone who mentions the John Edwards love child story.
DailyKOS is on it’s last legs, it will either become openly militant, or burn itself out as a cultural phenomenon by the end of this election cycle. The internal contradictions of the owner are unable to continue at current heading and course.
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