Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
Well, I’m going by Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” His mother was born in Kansas, an American citizen, which means Obama is still considered as such, even if born on foreign soil, unless she renounced her citizenship prior to his birth on foreign soil. We had a Presidential candidate in 1968 who ran who was born on foreign soil (Mexico) to American parents and because of that, he was still qualified to run because he was a citizen by virtue of his parents.
Just doing the job that the MSM and people like yourself are, for whatever reason, unwilling to do.
Much the same was said about the Monica Lewinsky episode when it first came up.
Those who wanted to forget about it and move on had their reasons for that attitude, but, to quote Gomer Pyle, "Surprise Surprise!"
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/08/truth-about-fake-birth-certificate.html
There are many opinions to consider.
Techdude has no case at all, imo.
No way anyone is going to touch this without a much better case than Techdude’s.
Nor should they.
Yeah, I thought she was too, well, nice when she suspended it. At least there haven’t been any “suicides” or plane crashes, which is what I feared. She and Bill have seemed too too happy.
I've read the article- it's the opinion of one man on the internet. Look, we all dislike Obama. I shudder at the possibility of him being President, but you have to look at the evidence objectively and put aside what you want the truth to be. The evidence simply isn't there.
Besides that, fake or not, Obamaosama has yet to prove he is eligible to run for office of President and it is up to him to prove.
Fine. Let's put forth the case for Obama's birth in the US- we have a birth certificate that no one in an official government capacity questions. There is no evidence that Obama's mother was anywhere other than Hawaii when he was born. Nobody who has known him has come forward to say that Obama, or his mother, or anyone else, has ever said anything about him being born outside of the US. He has run against the Clintons, who are known for their ability to dig up dirt on their opponents. McCain's campaign hasn't come forward with any evidence to the contrary. I'd be quite comfortable going to court with this evidence.
Look, this guy's beatable in the general election. But goofy stuff like this smacks of desperation, which is why you don't see the McCain campaign touching it with a 10 foot pole.
BTW, y'all should realize that the biggest hound dog on this case is TexasDarlin who is pro-Hilliary!
Bubba to ABC News yesterday: “I think everybody’s got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution.”
I knew they both have been way too quiet!
now we will have 2 who were born outside the US proper.
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Hawaii was a state when Barack was born, so your statement assumes facts not in evidence.
I’ve read the threads, read the linked documents, looked at the various postings of the birth certificate, and I have to wonder, is Barack behind this? Let’s face it, the more time and energy spent on this topic, which has so far yielded absolutely no fruit, is time and energy not spent on stuff that might actually stick.
Just a thought and my contribution to the whole air of conspiracy.
I’m still wondering how that would particularly matter as she did spend virtually all of her life up until the point of Obama’s birth (the question being where that was) in the U.S. as a citizen. 19 years at that point. By that unusual plank, she’d have to have been 21 to make the argument that he is disqualified stick. It still seems to contradict that Constitutional plank.
well well well.....I hope this is true. He would be disqualified right? Then again, Hillary has a better chance of winning than Hussein.
FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING!
Thank you, I didn’t know someone had admitted to forging a document. Good Lord!
no, if this is true, I rather see him fairly defeated at the election. I don’t think the proles would stand for it if he were taken out on a technicality. For one they would understand it.
Assuming that is the truth, it doesn't change the forgery on Obama's own website which he should be held accountable for. I still maintain he should be indicted for that, citizen or not, and that indictment should be major blaring headlines that a candidate for the U.S. Presidency FORGED a government document.
1. # Stixon 05 Aug 2008 at 10:09 amIt is scary how crazy some of these people are and that people actually take them seriously.
Is he talking David Gergen, Dan Rather, Claire McCaskill, or Nancy Pelosi, or Reverend Wright, or Al Sharpton, or Harry Reid or Dan Olberman, or Ted Turner? ... just rto name a few "trusted" names!
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