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Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant

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To: Sloth

Well, I’m going by Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” His mother was born in Kansas, an American citizen, which means Obama is still considered as such, even if born on foreign soil, unless she renounced her citizenship prior to his birth on foreign soil. We had a Presidential candidate in 1968 who ran who was born on foreign soil (Mexico) to American parents and because of that, he was still qualified to run because he was a citizen by virtue of his parents.


141 posted on 08/05/2008 8:23:07 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Citizen Blade
Trying the Hail-Mary approach of trying to prove he was born in Kenya or some such other nonsense just makes people look foolish.

Just doing the job that the MSM and people like yourself are, for whatever reason, unwilling to do.

Much the same was said about the Monica Lewinsky episode when it first came up.

Those who wanted to forget about it and move on had their reasons for that attitude, but, to quote Gomer Pyle, "Surprise Surprise!"


142 posted on 08/05/2008 8:23:39 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: calex59

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/08/truth-about-fake-birth-certificate.html

There are many opinions to consider.

Techdude has no case at all, imo.

No way anyone is going to touch this without a much better case than Techdude’s.

Nor should they.


143 posted on 08/05/2008 8:23:45 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: pissant
Can I get a BuMp! bUmP!
144 posted on 08/05/2008 8:24:55 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Yeah, I thought she was too, well, nice when she suspended it. At least there haven’t been any “suicides” or plane crashes, which is what I feared. She and Bill have seemed too too happy.


145 posted on 08/05/2008 8:25:08 AM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: calex59
They are not annonymous many people know who they are, and if you read the article and saw the proof then you know it is a fake document.

I've read the article- it's the opinion of one man on the internet. Look, we all dislike Obama. I shudder at the possibility of him being President, but you have to look at the evidence objectively and put aside what you want the truth to be. The evidence simply isn't there.

Besides that, fake or not, Obamaosama has yet to prove he is eligible to run for office of President and it is up to him to prove.

Fine. Let's put forth the case for Obama's birth in the US- we have a birth certificate that no one in an official government capacity questions. There is no evidence that Obama's mother was anywhere other than Hawaii when he was born. Nobody who has known him has come forward to say that Obama, or his mother, or anyone else, has ever said anything about him being born outside of the US. He has run against the Clintons, who are known for their ability to dig up dirt on their opponents. McCain's campaign hasn't come forward with any evidence to the contrary. I'd be quite comfortable going to court with this evidence.

Look, this guy's beatable in the general election. But goofy stuff like this smacks of desperation, which is why you don't see the McCain campaign touching it with a 10 foot pole.

146 posted on 08/05/2008 8:26:16 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: conservativegramma; All
I think the recent theory by TexasDarlin is correct. That is, Obama is a “natural-born” American by birth in Hawaii, but his real birth certificate was sealed when he was adopted and issued a new one with his adoptive father's name: SOETORO. For whatever reasons, the obamanation prefers his african-muslin name over “Barry Soetoro;” perhaps he's even legally changed it back. This probably has more to do with ethnic identity than citizenship, but it does show the immaturity of the man that he can't outright say from the start what the facts are.

BTW, y'all should realize that the biggest hound dog on this case is TexasDarlin who is pro-Hilliary!

147 posted on 08/05/2008 8:26:53 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: jennyjenny; Fawn

Bubba to ABC News yesterday: “I think everybody’s got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution.”


148 posted on 08/05/2008 8:27:16 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: old and cranky
It's a long thread...but a great read:

Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
149 posted on 08/05/2008 8:28:47 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: pissant
because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.

No, his mother would not have had 10 years as a U.S. citizen, 5 of which had to be after the age of 16. The "adult citizen" doesn't enter into this at all because, at the time, one wasn't an adult until the age of 21. So his mother, at the time of his birth, was, according to Michelle Obama, an unwed minor.
150 posted on 08/05/2008 8:28:58 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Miss Didi
“I think everybody’s got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution.”

I knew they both have been way too quiet!

151 posted on 08/05/2008 8:29:22 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry
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To: AU72

now we will have 2 who were born outside the US proper.
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Hawaii was a state when Barack was born, so your statement assumes facts not in evidence.

I’ve read the threads, read the linked documents, looked at the various postings of the birth certificate, and I have to wonder, is Barack behind this? Let’s face it, the more time and energy spent on this topic, which has so far yielded absolutely no fruit, is time and energy not spent on stuff that might actually stick.

Just a thought and my contribution to the whole air of conspiracy.


152 posted on 08/05/2008 8:29:27 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Sloth

I’m still wondering how that would particularly matter as she did spend virtually all of her life up until the point of Obama’s birth (the question being where that was) in the U.S. as a citizen. 19 years at that point. By that unusual plank, she’d have to have been 21 to make the argument that he is disqualified stick. It still seems to contradict that Constitutional plank.


153 posted on 08/05/2008 8:29:48 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: WayneS
I’ll bet Hill & Bill have literally hundreds of operatives searching high and low for an authentic non-U.S. birth certificate for the chosen one.

Another example of putting faith in Bill and Hillary to do the necessary work.
154 posted on 08/05/2008 8:30:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Miss Didi

well well well.....I hope this is true. He would be disqualified right? Then again, Hillary has a better chance of winning than Hussein.


155 posted on 08/05/2008 8:30:44 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U)
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The "coronation" in Denver might turn out to be a "beheading" instead!

FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING!

156 posted on 08/05/2008 8:32:31 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry
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To: Miss Didi

Thank you, I didn’t know someone had admitted to forging a document. Good Lord!


157 posted on 08/05/2008 8:35:27 AM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: All

no, if this is true, I rather see him fairly defeated at the election. I don’t think the proles would stand for it if he were taken out on a technicality. For one they would understand it.


158 posted on 08/05/2008 8:35:54 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophagus)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
That is, Obama is a “natural-born” American by birth in Hawaii, but his real birth certificate was sealed when he was adopted and issued a new one with his adoptive father's name: SOETORO.

Assuming that is the truth, it doesn't change the forgery on Obama's own website which he should be held accountable for. I still maintain he should be indicted for that, citizen or not, and that indictment should be major blaring headlines that a candidate for the U.S. Presidency FORGED a government document.

159 posted on 08/05/2008 8:36:15 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Calpernia
On the Strata-Sphere blog Hysteria Grips the Fringes :
1. # Stixon 05 Aug 2008 at 10:09 am

It is scary how crazy some of these people are and that people actually take them seriously.

Is he talking David Gergen, Dan Rather, Claire McCaskill, or Nancy Pelosi, or Reverend Wright, or Al Sharpton, or Harry Reid or Dan Olberman, or Ted Turner? ... just rto name a few "trusted" names!

160 posted on 08/05/2008 8:36:33 AM PDT by bvw
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