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Pelosi: At-risk Dems back drilling
Politico ^ | 8/5/08 | MARTIN KADY II & PATRICK O'CONNOR

Posted on 08/05/2008 5:50:40 AM PDT by vietvet67

California Democrat Nancy Pelosi may be trying to save the planet — but the rank and file in her party increasingly are just trying to save their political hides when it comes to gas prices as Republicans apply more and more rhetorical muscle.

But what looks like intraparty tension on the surface is part of an intentional strategy in which Pelosi takes the heat on energy policy, while behind the scenes she’s encouraging vulnerable Democrats to express their independence if it helps them politically, according to Democratic aides on and off Capitol Hill.

Pelosi’s gambit rests on one big assumption: that Democrats will own Washington after the election and will be able to craft a sweeping energy policy that is heavy on conservation and fuel alternatives while allowing for some new oil drilling. Democrats see no need to make major concessions on energy policy with a party poised to lose seats in both chambers in just three months — even if recess-averse Republicans continue to pound away on the issue.

“The reality is we will have a new president in three months, and what Bush and the Republicans are trying to do amounts to a land grab for the oil companies,” said one senior House Democratic aide involved with party strategy. “I don’t think we have to give in at all pre-election — we have many more options postelection.”

It’s a reality that Rep. Nick J. Rahall (D-W.Va.) personally delivered to President Bush recently.

Rahall spent more than an hour last week talking to the president about energy. Bush spent the entire flight aboard Air Force One, and much of a subsequent limousine ride, grilling the West Virginia Democrat about legislative solutions to the high price of gasoline, Rahall said last week.

So, does the president think Congress can get anything done this year?

“No,” Rahall replied in a short interview with Politico. “He’s realistic about it.”

Asked if Congress will produce a comprehensive energy bill in September before Congress adjourns again for elections, Rahall replied, “This year? No.”

Instead, the chairman of the House Committee on Natural Resources believes Democrats are all about 2009.

“We’ve laid the groundwork this year,” Rahall said.

Democratic House aides say the energy agenda has been carefully gamed out in strategy sessions, and Pelosi always intended to take heat on gas prices while tacitly encouraging more vulnerable Democrats to publicly disagree with her and show their independence.

Freshman Democrats like Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania and Don Cazayoux of Louisiana have taken her up on the offer.

Altmire has said a drilling vote “will happen,” while Cazayoux, hoping to hang on to his seat in a conservative Baton Rouge-area district, on Friday sent a letter to Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) demanding a vote on more domestic oil exploration.

“There will be a vote,” said Altmire, who faces a rematch with former GOP Rep. Melissa Hart this fall in the Pittsburgh suburbs.

Indeed, Congress must vote before Sept. 30 to renew the annual moratorium; otherwise, it will lapse on its own, giving states the right to decide whether private companies can search for potential drilling sites three miles offshore. .

“My view is that if we have a vote, let’s make it a rational policy,” said Altmire, whose district includes viable coal and nuclear industries. “We can’t let Republicans hold this issue hostage because of one vote.”

Cazayoux, in his letter, says “the current debate seems to be bogged down in partisan one-upmanship.”

To some extent, House Republicans seem to be playing right along with the strategy, taking Pelosi’s name in vain dozens of times during their rebel House sessions over the past few days and making her the villain who won’t allow oil drilling votes.

“It’s grossly unfair to the Democrats who want a vote,” said Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). “[Pelosi] needs to cut that out.”

The Senate has also gone with a run-out-the-clock strategy, with Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) calling for a bipartisan energy summit but promising no major energy votes. Reid embraced the drilling and conservation proposals of the bipartisan Senate “Gang of 10” last week, but he made further commitment on the energy debate.

Reid, like Pelosi, is expecting to have a much stronger governing majority in the Senate next year, so he has little incentive to give in to Republicans on energy policy as long as he thinks it won’t hurt Democrats.

Even as they face heat from constituents during the August break, Democrats say they aren’t going to cave in to popular pressure.

“We feel pretty comfortable with where we are,” said Rep. Michael E. Capuano (D-Mass.), who is close to the Democratic leadership. “This is a not a new issue. This just didn’t happen today. We’ve been working on this for months.”

Democratic insiders said that Pelosi and other party leaders were “not rattled” by the GOP floor rebellion, and at this point, it’s not clear if the Democrats will even pay a price on energy. State-level polling conducted by Democrats suggests that voters still view President Bush and the GOP as the incumbent power in Washington, and Democratic strategists believe any anti-incumbent wave would hurt Republicans more than Democrats.

Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, one of the leaders of the rogue GOP House session, said he realizes that Democrats are “in a four-corners stall right now,” and admits that “it gets more challenging” for Republicans if they lose more seats in Congress.

Democrats are also comforted somewhat by the fact that crude oil prices have gone down more than 10 percent from their summer highs, and if the U.S. economy enters a recession, prices may fall further due to slackening demand.

“There is no crisis on our side of the aisle,” a top House Democratic leadership aide said. “We have a plan, and we will stick to it.”

John Bresnahan and Daniel Reilly contributed to this story


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1 posted on 08/05/2008 5:50:40 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

I heard this morning on the radio that the President can’t reconvene Congress due to the Senate being in a pro forma recess. The Dems are once again opening the Senate for a couple of minutes each day to prevent recess appointments. So, since they are not in full recess no special session can be called.

I swear, all the Dems ever have is rule changes and tricks. Never a straight vote or discussion.


2 posted on 08/05/2008 5:55:56 AM PDT by doodad
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To: vietvet67
Reid, like Pelosi, is expecting to have a much stronger governing majority in the Senate next year, so he has little incentive to give in to Republicans on energy policy as long as he thinks it won’t hurt Democrats.

Their arrogance knows no bounds....

3 posted on 08/05/2008 5:59:31 AM PDT by right wing (The Drive-By Media Are Terrorists Too)
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To: vietvet67

The Rats left hoping for a recession to lower Oil prices rather than drilling.
If you like $4/gal, Thank Congress.

Pray for W and Our Troops


4 posted on 08/05/2008 6:02:44 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: vietvet67
Democrats are also comforted somewhat by the fact that crude oil prices have gone down more than 10 percent from their summer highs, and if the U.S. economy enters a recession, prices may fall further due to slackening demand.

More Politico lies... world demand for oil goes up every minute.

5 posted on 08/05/2008 6:04:26 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: doodad
More of this President (and us) reaping the fruits of his unwillingness to leave behind his unique bipartisan experience in Texas and recognize that it doesn't exist in Washington. From the time he took office in 2001 till now, W has stubbornly clung to the idea that just as he did Texas he can turn the DC RATS to his side if he just gives out enough nicknames, slaps enough backs, and throws enough White House Night at the Movies. His failure to clean out the executive branch of as many RATS, especially the Klintoon holdovers, and his reluctance to call out the Hill RATS are directly from his misguided bipartisanship belief. He has been paid back repeatedly with scorn, derision, non-cooperation and betrayal from within agencies for his efforts.

The Senate playing these pro forma session games is just the latest example of him being paid back and also underscores how he didn't take advantage of having majorities in both houses when he had the chance, though some of that blame also rests on the feckless Republican leadership. Nevertheless, it was W who squandered a lot in the name of getting along with the other side of town when they were clearly giving him the finger with both hands.

6 posted on 08/05/2008 6:13:30 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: right wing
Link “conservative” dems to Pelosi and Reid and force them to distance themselves from their leaders.
7 posted on 08/05/2008 6:14:16 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: vietvet67

so nancy would destroy the economy to win AN ELECTION...

NO SURPRISE


8 posted on 08/05/2008 6:15:01 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: vietvet67

“Pelosi’s gambit rests on one big assumption: that Democrats will own Washington after the election and will be able to craft a sweeping energy policy that is heavy on conservation and fuel alternatives while allowing for some new oil drilling.”

Why would Pelosi allow for ANY drilling if Democrats win? The vulnerable Dems ones are going to say anything to get re-elected so they maintain power.


9 posted on 08/05/2008 6:16:59 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: vietvet67

Jason Altmire is a nimrod. Melissa Hart is running a strong campaign to get re-elected in this district, which she lost two years ago when voters were looking for anyone with a D behind their name. Her volunteers are very energized and working hard.


10 posted on 08/05/2008 6:20:49 AM PDT by cjshapi (Proudly posting without a tagline since 2001)
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To: johnny7
US oil demand has actually slackened somewhat during the past two months as a consequence of record gasoline prices. Overall, world demand has not fallen, and the lull in US demand is almost certainly a temporary phenomenon. More good news today, though: oil futures have dropped below $120/bbl. which was widely seen as a key "support" barrier in the market, meaning that further declines are now likely.

What would really help matters is if Congress would get back in session and allow our oil companies to drill here and drill now.

11 posted on 08/05/2008 6:23:42 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: vietvet67

Why the Democrats are against the US drilling for our own oil.

Read this and I think you will agree the oil industry has already been Nationalized in the US;

It was common in those days, as it is in ours, to identify the Communists as leftist and the Nazis as rightists, as if they stood on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. But Mises knew differently. They both sported the same ideological pedigree of socialism. “The German and Russian systems of socialism have in common the fact that the government has full control of the means of production. It decides what shall be produced and how. It allots to each individual a share of consumer’s goods for his consumption.”

The difference between the systems, wrote Mises, is that the German pattern “maintains private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary prices, wages, and markets.” But in fact the government directs production decisions, curbs entrepreneurship and the labor market, and determines wages and interest rates by central authority. “Market exchange,” says Mises, “is only a sham.”

Mises’s account is confirmed by a remarkable book that appeared in 1939, published by Vanguard Press in New York City (and unfortunately out of print today). It is The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Guenter Reimann, then a 35-year old German writer. Through contacts with German business owners, Reimann documented how the “monster machine” of the Nazis crushed the autonomy of the private sector through onerous regulations, harsh inspections, and the threat of confiscatory fines for petty offenses.

“Industrialists were visited by state auditors who had strict orders to examine the balance sheets and all bookkeeping entries of the company or individual businessman for the preceding two, three or more years until some error or false entry was found,” explains Reimann. “The slightest formal mistake was punished with tremendous penalties. A fine of millions of marks was imposed for a single bookkeeping error.”

Reimann quotes from a businessman’s letter: “You have no idea how far state control goes and how much power the Nazi representatives have over our work. The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth.’ Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.

“While state representatives are busily engaged in investigating and interfering, our agents and salesmen are handicapped because they never know whether or not a sale at a higher price will mean denunciation as a ‘profiteer’ or ‘saboteur,’ followed by a prison sentence. You cannot imagine how taxation has increased. Yet everyone is afraid to complain. Everywhere there is a growing undercurrent of bitterness. Everyone has his doubts about the system, unless he is very young, very stupid, or is bound to it by the privileges he enjoys.

“There are terrible times coming. If only I had succeeded in smuggling out $10,000 or even $5,000, I would leave Germany with my family. Business friends of mine are convinced that it will be the turn of the ‘white Jews’ (which means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been expropriated. The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that we are still independent businessmen.”

As Mises says, “independent” only in a decorous sense. Under fascism, explains this businessman, the capitalist “must be servile to the representatives of the state” and “must not insist on rights, and must not behave as if his private property rights were still sacred.” It’s the businessman, characteristically independent, who is “most likely to get into trouble with the Gestapo for having grumbled incautiously.”

“Of all businessmen, the small shopkeeper is the one most under control and most at the mercy of the party,” recounts Reimann. “The party man, whose good will he must have, does not live in faraway Berlin; he lives right next door or right around the corner. This local Hitler gets a report every day on what is discussed in Herr Schultz’s bakery and Herr Schmidt’s butcher shop. He would regard these men as ‘enemies of the state’ if they complained too much. That would mean, at the very least, the cutting of their quota of scarce and hence highly desirable goods, and it might mean the loss of their business licenses. Small shopkeepers and artisans are not to grumble.”

“Officials, trained only to obey orders, have neither the desire, the equipment, nor the vision to modify rules to suit individual situations,” Reimann explains. “The state bureaucrats, therefore, apply these laws rigidly and mechanically, without regard for the vital interests of essential parts of the national economy. Their only incentive to modify the letter of the law is in bribes from businessmen, who for their part use bribery as their only means of obtaining relief from a rigidity which they find crippling.”

Says another businessman: “Each business move has become very complicated and is full of legal traps which the average businessman cannot determine because there are so many new decrees. All of us in business are constantly in fear of being penalized for the violation of some decree or law.”

Business owners, explains another entrepreneur, cannot exist without a “collaborator,” i.e., a “lawyer” with good contacts in the Nazi bureaucracy, one who “knows exactly how far you can circumvent the law.” Nazi officials, explains Reimann, “obtain money for themselves by merely taking it from capitalists who have funds available with which to purchase influence and protection,” paying for their protection “as did the helpless peasants of feudal days.”

“It has gotten to the point where I cannot talk even in my own factory,” laments a factory owner. “Accidentally, one of the workers overheard me grumbling about some new bureaucratic regulation and he immediately denounced me to the party and the Labor Front office.”

Reports another factory owner: “The greater part of the week I don’t see my factory at all. All this time I spend in visiting dozens of government commissions and offices in order to get raw materials I need. Then there are various tax problems to settle and I must have continual conferences and negotiations with the Price Commission. It sometimes seems as if I do nothing but that, and everywhere I go there are more leaders, party secretaries, and commissars to see.”

In this totalitarian paradigm, a businessman, declares a Nazi decree, “practices his functions primarily as a representative of the State, only secondarily for his own sake.” Complain, warns a Nazi directive, and “we shall take away the freedom still left you.”

In 1933, six years before Reimann’s book, Victor Klemperer, a Jewish academic in Dresden, made the following entry in his diary on February 21: “It is a disgrace that gets worse with every day that passes. And there’s not a sound from anyone. Everyone’s keeping his head down.”

It is impossible to escape the parallels between Guenter Reimann’s account of doing business under the Nazis and the “compassionate,” “responsible,” and regulated “capitalism” of today’s U.S. economy today. At least the German government was frank enough to give the right name to its system of economic control.

Here is the link for this article:

http://mises.org/story/47


12 posted on 08/05/2008 6:24:29 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick like McCain. Go against anything he wants us to do.)
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Democratic House aides say the energy agenda has been carefully gamed out in strategy sessions, and Pelosi always intended to take heat on gas prices while tacitly encouraging more vulnerable Democrats to publicly disagree with her and show their independence.

This is why I have stated for a long time that one should vote for the party and NOT the candidate when it comes to Congressional elections. I know this is contrary to the conventional wisdom of independent thinkers, but there is serious reasoning behind it. Very few individuals make any difference in Congress, but the party that controls Congress sets the agenda. No matter how conservative a Democrat is, if he is going to vote for a Dem for Speaker, his so-called support of drilling or whatever conservative stands will be worthless, as proven recently. The only vote that really matters is for Speaker.

13 posted on 08/05/2008 6:42:34 AM PDT by Ziva (McCain could never make me vote for him... but Obama can.)
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To: vietvet67
This would be a good time for the RNC or G.W. Bush to run an ad stating that the Democrats are responsible for the $4 a gallon gas prices. And, that the Democrats in Congress left for vacation without discussing and/or resolving the issue.

I certainly hope that the Republicans who are running for election run ads about the negative effects of the Democrats' decision to leave instead of solving the gas price crisis.

14 posted on 08/05/2008 6:43:38 AM PDT by xtinct
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To: Ziva

bttt


15 posted on 08/05/2008 6:43:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: xtinct

Do you support or oppose drilling for oil off-shore in U.S. coastal waters?
Likely Voters
Republicans
Democrats
Independents

Support
74%
90%
58%
75%

Oppose
18%
5%
30%
20%

Not sure
8%
5%
12%
5%

I don’t see democrats gaining seats in either house or the senate but LOSING THEM.


16 posted on 08/05/2008 6:47:14 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: doodad
I heard this morning on the radio that the President can’t reconvene Congress due to the Senate being in a pro forma recess.

Not true...he can convene either one House or the other or both, as necessary.

17 posted on 08/05/2008 6:54:54 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: vietvet67
It's CYA time for the ‘Rats who are backing this drilling. They know that they aren't safe when they are up for re-election this year.

But Nancy, of course still bends over for her freak constituents in San Francisco.

18 posted on 08/05/2008 6:57:14 AM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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. “I don’t think we have to give in at all pre-election — we have many more options postelection.”

I love it when Democrats get delusional.

19 posted on 08/05/2008 7:02:01 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: doodad
The Dems are once again opening the Senate for a couple of minutes each day to prevent recess appointments.

The Republican senators need to get back to Washington, get into the senate chamber when that one Democrat is in the chamber, declare a quorum and start passing legislation 49-1. Even if it doesn't succeed, it will be fun watching and show that those old dogs still have some growl in them even if they don't bite anymore.

20 posted on 08/05/2008 7:07:04 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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