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America and Republicans are being played for fools by Pelosi (Drilling for oil)
8/3/08 | Poman

Posted on 08/03/2008 12:47:46 PM PDT by Popman

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1 posted on 08/03/2008 12:47:47 PM PDT by Popman
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Imagine for now, because it will happen, Congress reconvenes in five weeks and Obama had spent the last five weeks pushing his oil/energy plans, nuanced and carefully crafted to appease even the most strident environmental wacko. (Probably it will look just like McCain plan) The very important political hot potato Republicans have been counting to punish the Democrats will disappear.

Please how "nuanced" is Obama saying that inflating tires will be the answer to energy independence.

2 posted on 08/03/2008 12:54:07 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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Hadn’t Obama ALREADY caved on the drilling issue when she was interviewed by Stephanopoulos?


3 posted on 08/03/2008 12:54:08 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Popman

Do you really think the Dems are that smart?


4 posted on 08/03/2008 12:54:40 PM PDT by liberateUS
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To: Popman

I said almost the exact thing last night on another thread. Great minds think alike Popman....It’s the old head fake game. Bush NEEDS to call an emergency session and get the deal the Republicans want on the table and voted on before this bites them in the azz...They can’t let the dunce boy get any positive exposure to this...
they also can’t get this to a vote on a Dem proposal because it will be chock full of restrictions. Then when Republicans vote no on the proposal, Dems and the media will scream to high heavens that the Republicans are in the pockets of big oil blah blah blah....


5 posted on 08/03/2008 12:54:52 PM PDT by oust the louse (Terrorists are salivating over an Obama White House.)
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To: Popman
I think Obama flipped on the drilling issue because of the stupid "properly inflating your tires" comments. He had to flip after those comments. They sounded so incredibly stupid, so he changed the subject. Those comments, alone, could have lost the election for Obama if properly used by the McCain.
6 posted on 08/03/2008 12:57:36 PM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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The damage is already done. Changing to support drilling now is going to be seen as just what it is, a capitulation. They may minimize the damage, but it isn’t going to help them.


7 posted on 08/03/2008 1:01:34 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: Popman

I think you give her way too much credit. Good analysis, but the only thing that is missing to even give it a chance at credibility is Pelosi having a brain, which she clearly doesn't.

Her hammering away at releasing oil from the Strategic Oil Reserve is ample evidence of her brainlessness.

8 posted on 08/03/2008 1:02:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: KansasGirl

True.....but he HAS flip-flopped on the issue and it was days before the interview with Pelosi.

See this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2055812/posts


9 posted on 08/03/2008 1:02:36 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: liberateUS
Do you really think the Dems are that smart?

They seem to be in control.

If they aren't smart enough to do something like this, what does make us?

10 posted on 08/03/2008 1:04:35 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: KansasGirl
I think Obama flipped on the drilling issue because of the stupid "properly inflating your tires" comments. He had to flip after those comments.

Cheez whiz, if this yahoo is not the MOST CONDESCENDING politician ... what's next, Obama? Something about letting us eat cake??

11 posted on 08/03/2008 1:04:39 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: DallasBiff
Please how "nuanced" is Obama saying that inflating tires will be the answer to energy independence.

That was Obama being the assclown empty suit he really is

Do you really thin Obama crafts energy policy?

His wonks do that, he just follows the letters on the teleprompter and smiles

12 posted on 08/03/2008 1:08:33 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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If this is the Dem plan, McCain should start predicting that Obama will soon come around to supporting McCain’s drilling plan. That should prevent the Dems from getting any credit for it when it happens.


13 posted on 08/03/2008 1:09:03 PM PDT by Mother Mary
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To: SumProVita
Hadn’t Obama ALREADY caved on the drilling issue when she was interviewed by Stephanopoulos?

"Caved" may be too strong a word.

"Consider" was the word I think he used.

Obama never just changes policy he moves like a chameleon changing colors as the environment dictates.

He doesn't have to take a position to endorse an energy policy that includes some drilling, he just needs to let enough wiggle room for Pelosi to introduce legislation that doesn't conflict with his statements

14 posted on 08/03/2008 1:12:37 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: SumProVita

“Hadn’t Obama ALREADY caved on the drilling issue when she was interviewed by Stephanopoulos?”

Yes, but it was just a rant.

The dems are now trying to re-position themselves better between their hard-left supporters, and the pragmatic American voters.

Deception will be part of the recipe.


15 posted on 08/03/2008 1:13:07 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: syriacus

To Nancy Fool-osi

Ambulances save our lives,
Yet none of them can go for drives
Without good oil.
You silly goil.


16 posted on 08/03/2008 1:15:50 PM PDT by syriacus (Democrats got THEIR "change" in Election 2006. Are WE better off now?)
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Clearly, the McCain Campaign believes that the Democrats will attempt to pull the energy rug out from under them by flip-flopping on off-shore drilling at the last minute (e.g. after Labor Day, when people really start paying attention). That's why McCain's advisors have not heeded the repeated and frenzied calls by every pundit from Rush Limbaugh to Dick Morris to go "all drilling, all the time" in their advertising. The Democrats ability to reverse course at the drop of a hat explains why McCain continues to tout his "enviromental" credentials to the mortification of many conservatives: i.e. he may be able to pick off some disgruntled greenies when the Democrat flop their flip on drilling. That's also why the Senator's people haven't adopted that "consistent theme" or "message" that so many conservatives have urged them to preach.

In other words (and the recent tightening in the polls tends to confirm this), maybe McCain's handlers know a little more than we give them credit for, and maybe the Democrats haven't yet regained their once fabled ability to fool most of the people all of the time.

17 posted on 08/03/2008 1:16:36 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: rlmorel
Her hammering away at releasing oil from the Strategic Oil Reserve is ample evidence of her brainlessness.

In a way I think it makes my point, what else can she possible say that makes any sense whatsoever why we don't drill ?

When your position is built on quicksand and the only thing you can say is stupid you keep saying it because after a while people stop listening

18 posted on 08/03/2008 1:19:13 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: Mother Mary; Popman

Good idea. Both McCain should do this and Bush shold demand a return to congress. Popman, you may be onto something here. Hadn’t thought of that. Guess I was thinking the Rats are ‘honest”....yeesh. what is worng with me?


19 posted on 08/03/2008 1:23:41 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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I don't buy it. The first thing Nancy Pelosi worries about — above Saving The Planet™, above helping Obama, above everything — is getting Nancy Pelosi re-relected. She hails from one of the most liberal Congressional districts in the United States. Hers are the people who honestly believe we can run the nation on Flower Power and Change™ if we just have the courage to abolish Big Oil.

What Nancy Pelosi does not want to become is Tom Daschle, the "retired" Democratic leader who got too far out of touch with his constituents and so lost his seat.


20 posted on 08/03/2008 1:23:58 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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