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Anthrax case turns - Scientist commits suicide as FBI probe tightens
Frederick News-Post ^ | August 2, 2008 | Gina Gallucci-White and Justin M. Palk

Posted on 08/02/2008 2:07:52 PM PDT by Shermy

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To: okie01

“You’re not buying it either, I gather.”

I have my doubts, like many.

I’ll give them this - at least this guy, unlike Hatfill, worked with anthrax.


21 posted on 08/02/2008 2:55:32 PM PDT by Shermy (I'm very proud of America giving me this opportunity. It's a sign of enormous growth in this country)
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To: Shermy
Los Angeles Times "broke" the Ivins story yesterday.

I was in LA yesterday and happened to read their story. An interesting facet in the LA Times article was a quote from his brother who said that he (the brother of Bruce Ivins) "sung like a canary" when asked about his brother Bruce, saying that Bruce had this idea about himself that he was "omnipotent".

22 posted on 08/02/2008 3:11:17 PM PDT by Jim W N
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In one report, during a group therapy session he threatened to commit workplace mass murder.

Imagine for a second what could have happened if this man had decided to do like other suicidal killers and take as many innocent people with him as possible. Given his position it is very possible that he had access to large amounts of anthrax.

What if he decided to go to the top of a NY skyscraper on a windy day and release his stash of anthrax. What if he grabbed a large mailing list off the Internet and mailed out 1000 anthrax letters, or 5000. What if he stood on a hill upwind from a large football stadium, or hijacked a light plane and flew over a large metropolitan area.
What if he did all of the above but in multiple cities over a couple weeks time.
I think it is perfectly possible for a rogue bio-weapons scientist to murder a million people. It appears to me that the authorities treated this case as a garden variety serial killer law enforcement problem and not a potential holocaust.
It seems to me they were taking an incredible chance in just assuming this guy was not intent on mass murder.

This attachment to the fine points of constitutional law and due process is leading us down the road potential, to a horrific catastrophe which will dwarf 9-11.

Public health officials totally surrendered to the AIDS lobby. The CDC and the whole health establishment are spending a hundred billion dollars on a cure for an easily preventable disease, rather than risk being labeled homophobic or racists by activists. Activists representing those whose main concern is to make their sex practices safer.

This mentality is so deeply entrenched among the medical and media elite that I believe they would rather risk the death of millions rather than be accused of being a bigot.

I believe if the CDC discovered a breakout of an incredibly contagious strain of Ebola in Sub-Saharan Africa, that literally had the potential of killing 95% of the worlds population instead of immediately quarantining Sub-Saharan Africa and suspending international travel, they would discuss, debate, dawdle and fret about whether such dramatic action would be perceived as racist, and delay action just long enough to doom billions.

23 posted on 08/02/2008 3:17:16 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: Shermy

There are NO coincidences in crime. Each trail must be followed to its very end.


24 posted on 08/02/2008 3:18:25 PM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Jim 0216

Interestingly, the LA Times failed to mention this brother who hated him had not spoken to Ivins since 1985. 28 years. The AP reporters followed up and found that crucial fact.

That omission on the Times part was one of the things that caught my attention. It read like the Times reporter just regurgitated whatever his FBI source fed him.


25 posted on 08/02/2008 3:19:43 PM PDT by Shermy (I'm very proud of America giving me this opportunity. It's a sign of enormous growth in this country)
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To: mainestategop

PAT ROBERTSON!? Yeah I bet, what a maroon!


26 posted on 08/02/2008 4:28:40 PM PDT by jimbobaby
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To: Shermy
Me thinks the therapist had issues. Who runs out and snitches to the FBI on a client?
27 posted on 08/02/2008 4:51:18 PM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Shermy

Jawohl! Intrigue gets deeper. The bother didn’t seem to hide the fact that he didn’t try to protect him.


28 posted on 08/02/2008 5:03:00 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Battle Axe
"Who runs out and snitches to the FBI on a client?"

Uh, perhaps a therapist who believes that a client intends to do them harm.

Sometimes it just is what it is.

29 posted on 08/02/2008 5:11:30 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Shermy; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

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30 posted on 08/02/2008 5:28:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Shermy
Interestingly, the LA Times failed to mention this brother who hated him had not spoken to Ivins since 1985. 28 years. The AP reporters followed up and found that crucial fact.

Whatever he told the FBI must have fit the psychological profile the investigators were considering. However, it seems Ivins' friends and colleagues all held him high regard. So, which brother is the nut?

31 posted on 08/02/2008 5:54:37 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Shermy

If he had homicidal tendencies towards therapists he must have had some good sense.


32 posted on 08/02/2008 6:01:22 PM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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To: cynwoody
So, which brother is the nut?

I can't tell. Nor can I see why it is significant evidence that an alienated family member would say of someone that they think too well of themselves, and reckon they can do anything.

Such comments can be made about anyone, really, and whether true or false are no indication of a crime.

33 posted on 08/02/2008 6:04:27 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Shermy

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 08/02/2008 11:03:07 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Shermy
Interesting. From this story, it actually sounds like this guy tried to kill himself on late Saturday or early Sunday, and only died a couple of days later.

I still want to know why, if he was under such intense scrutiny and was about to be indicted, it took so long for all of this information to come out. That to me is the fishiest part about the whole thing.

35 posted on 08/03/2008 10:04:59 AM PDT by jpl ("Present." - Barack Obama)
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To: jpl

Ok,how about a little heresy injected into the issue.

The death was not Arkencide, but Texacide?


36 posted on 08/03/2008 10:12:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: jimbobaby
PAT ROBERTSON!? Yeah I bet, what a maroon!

Yeah I think so too. I got tired watching that guy. I still watch CBN Christian world news though.

37 posted on 08/03/2008 12:42:30 PM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: Come in and get taxed)
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