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Exclusive: Indoctrination in Public Schools Leads to Rise in Home Schooling
Family Security Matters ^ | August 1, 2008 | Renee Taylor

Posted on 08/01/2008 4:54:28 AM PDT by captjanaway

It’s that time of year again as parents scramble to pick up the necessary supplies to send with their children as they are bussed off to the public school (I call them government indoctrination centers) across town. Unlike years ago, when our parents sent us to school with a notebook for each class, a couple of pencils and our lunch money, today’s child will lug clear or mesh backpacks filled with such necessities as liquid anti-bacterial hand soap, boxes of baby wipes and, in the case of Hermitage Elementary School in Hermitage, Arkansas, their first graders will supply two rolls of paper towels and a 50 count pack of clear sheet protectors each.

The lists this year at our local schools here in Arkansas for each student include a wide variety of products necessary for your child to complete his or her school work. I have not quite understood the need for a kindergarten boy to provide a box of gallon Ziploc bags or a kindergarten girl to provide a box of pint sized Ziploc bags (brand names only, please) or a second grade boy to provide a package of construction paper while second grade girls provide a pack of white computer paper. Then again, in my “old fashioned” view of preparing for school, I cannot fathom why each first grade child must provide a package of red ink pens. Perhaps we parents are supplying the school system with supplies for all - communal property to be used by those who supply and those who do not (aka Communism/Marxism)?

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1 posted on 08/01/2008 4:54:28 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: captjanaway

http://www.amazon.com/None-Dare-Call-Education-Happening/dp/0914053124/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217591799

“None Dare Call It Education” was published 10 years ago, and it was very scary reading then. Imagine what an update would be like.


2 posted on 08/01/2008 4:59:42 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Homeschooled and homeschooling.)
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To: captjanaway

Perhaps we parents are supplying the school system with supplies for all - communal property to be used by those who supply and those who do not (aka Communism/Marxism)?
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Marxism is our nation’s most serious threat,..and...Government schools are teaching our children to become Communists.

We will lose freedom in the ballot box if the government schools and colleges and universities succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters. They are hard at work doing that.


3 posted on 08/01/2008 5:01:13 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

Agreed. The liberal indoctrination camps (public schools) are an abject failure. We’ve homeschooled all 4 of our children (two now at competitive universities and 2 still at home). Unless you have an exceptional child and a unbelievably close and deep relationship with your child, I wouldn’t send them there. You have no control over 7 hours of their day, 180 days a year. Is it any wonder they lose their morality. Many of the very teachers you claim to “know” and “trust” vehemently oppose the very traditional values held most conservative parents. Do you know where your child’s teacher stands on:
1. Life?
2. Role of Government
3. Taxes
4. Political party affiliation?
5. etc?

Geez, we “trust” way to much! These little one’s God gives us are our most prized possessions. Please remember that when you send them off to 7 hours of inculcation from Mr. Smith or Ms. Jones


4 posted on 08/01/2008 5:07:55 AM PDT by mek1959
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To: captjanaway
It may not be that sinister. It is probably just punishement meted out by the NEA and their state sub-unions to aggravate the parents for not giving them even more money.

This allows the schools to cry poverty so even more money can be thrown down ratholes by hiring more Education Professionals, such as more vice-principals and administrators and other nonproductive overhead.

5 posted on 08/01/2008 5:10:34 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: captjanaway

(I call them government indoctrination centers)

Gee, that was original.


6 posted on 08/01/2008 5:15:42 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Gorzaloon

Good point - and don’t forget they probably have to hire more “migrant aides” to assist in the invasion from the southern border. Must educate the illegals in their home language, you know.


7 posted on 08/01/2008 5:16:52 AM PDT by captjanaway
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To: captjanaway
No need to concern ourselves with pesky details such as the Mayflower, the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock and the failure of communal existence when we can be researching the history of popcorn. ( from the article)

And...There will be no discussion of the religious faith that was the motivation for the Pilgrims to come to the New World. There will also be no discussion of the fact that the Pilgrims living in Holland were losing their children to Dutch culture.

8 posted on 08/01/2008 5:18:04 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

“And...There will be no discussion of the religious faith that was the motivation for the Pilgrims to come to the New World.”

Guess you have some really crappy schools where you live. All that is taught in our schools.


9 posted on 08/01/2008 5:20:10 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: mek1959
You have no control over 7 hours of their day, 180 days a year. Is it any wonder they lose their morality.

It is much more than 7 hours a day, 180 days a year. Let me list the ways children are immerses in the government culture:

*Time riding the bus and waiting for the bus.

*Homework, textbooks, and all reading assignments.

*Friends made at school. Time on the Internet, text messaging, and cell phone with school indoctrinated friends.

*All government sponsored after school activities, theater, sports, and music events, and school dances.

The desire for fashions that effect the child every day of the year.

Eating habits picked up in school that effect the children for his entire life! ( Have you ever met a fat homeschooler who has been homeschooled from the beginning. I haven't.

10 posted on 08/01/2008 5:26:47 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: adopt4Christ; Amelia; BlackElk; MrB; Boiling point; capt. norm; Cincinnatus; Clintonfatigued; ...
If you do not want to be contacted **please** let me know, and I will remove your name.

I have included your name on the list because, in the past, you have posted to me about education issues. I surely don’t wish to bother you, but I don’t want you to miss these education articles, either.

I will call this ping list:

“The All Opinions Welcome Government Education Ping List” !

Government Education Ping List

For those who are interested in a full and open discussion about government education.

11 posted on 08/01/2008 5:28:07 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: captjanaway
Perhaps we parents are supplying the school system with supplies for all - communal property to be used by those who supply and those who do not

D'oh. Of course we are. Many of us have figured out the crayons (brand name only) pencil cases, tissues, hand sanitizer, etc we are required to send to school- are put into a communal pile and doled out to all, including those who "couldn't afford" to contribute anything toward their free public education (including a $.50 box of crayons, brand name only please). My kid's school hall is already lined with spanking new backpacks filled with school supplies, all donated, for kids who will arrive wearing the latest designer sneakers. But God forbid I should send cupcakes!
12 posted on 08/01/2008 5:32:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Gorzaloon

If they didn’t give extortionate retirement packages to their employees it would help.

There’s one couple I know of, he was a superintendent and she was the school nurse; they retired with $100,000 retirement package a year between the two of them. He also got all their friends nice high paying jobs towards the end of their careers so that when the retirement was calculated they’d get the max they could.

Last I knew, they had been retired for 10 years and counting and both were in good health.


13 posted on 08/01/2008 5:41:50 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mek1959

A couple of phrases that I’ve heard that are great:

We’re suprised when we send our kids off to Caesar to get educated and discipled and they come back as Romans.

Don’t sacrifice your children on the pagan altar.


14 posted on 08/01/2008 5:42:47 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: wintertime
You're right.

Hopefully more and more parents will realize the dangers of the public inculcation camps and get them out. Even if they have to work 3 jobs to afford private school or quit 1 to homeschool, get them out. They are dangerous.

15 posted on 08/01/2008 5:43:35 AM PDT by mek1959
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; AZ .44 MAG; bboop; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
16 posted on 08/01/2008 5:45:01 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wintertime

You can put me on as well.


17 posted on 08/01/2008 5:45:08 AM PDT by mek1959
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To: silverleaf

Amazing. I grew up in the late ‘50s to early ‘70s, and the only thing I was ever compelled to bring to school was a writing implement and a notebook. That’s really all you need to give a child a first-rate education, apart from a skilled, motivated teacher, a few books, and some good, old-fashioned discipline.


18 posted on 08/01/2008 5:45:08 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Gorzaloon

There may be some that “aren’t that sinister”. (”sinister” and “left” have a common word origin, BTW)

There was a thread yesterday, however, on the huge differential of birthrates between conservatives and leftists.

Leftists choose not to have children (because they are inherently selfish, being leftists and all),
but they want to pro-create their ideology anyway - WITH YOUR CHILDREN. And the recommended way was through the education system.


19 posted on 08/01/2008 5:45:33 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: captjanaway

I completely agree with the main thesis of her essay, but she has a huge historical error in the ending. Capt. John Smith did not correct the Pilgrims failed communal economic system! Smith’s venture in Virginia was almost a whole decade prior to the Pilgrim’s landing. Furthermore, The Common Storehouse idea was never the Pilgrim’s desire in the first place but was imposed upon them by the “adventurers” who financed the venture to the New World. After it was clear the idea was a failure to the economic prosperity of the colony, the pilgrims were successful in changing the rule by petition to the Governor and his council. For all the details see, PURITAN ECONOMIC EXPERIMENTS by Dr. Gary North.


20 posted on 08/01/2008 5:46:52 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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