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1 posted on 07/30/2008 12:41:44 PM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72

It’s a simple thing... He was born in Hawaii. Yes, his mother and father were in Kenya, but they returned to the mother’s home in the United States to comply with the census. They arrived via donkey, where she gave birth in a hut in Hawaii. They were warned in a dream not to return to Kenya, so they spent several years in Indonesia. Then they returned to the United States where the lad grew to manhood, and ultimately became “the one for whom the world has been waiting.”


2 posted on 07/30/2008 12:52:44 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Neville72

Several questions:

Where is the article about the newspaper announcement of Obama’s birth in Hawaii? I have not seen anything about this until this reference.

If there WAS a newspaper announcement, does it mention the hospital he was born in?

What was the date of this newspaper announcement?

Finally, I would point out that births, deaths, and weddings are generally called in to the local newspaper by the family, and the information given is simply printed, except in the case of famous people, when the paper may do its own research and already have a file prepared.

In other words, if Obama’s family wanted to make it appear as if he had been born in Hawaii, all they had to do was call the newspaper and tell them any story they liked. In itself, it isn’t proof of anything.

We still don’t know that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii, but in itself, without further confirmation and cross checking, an old newspaper article is NOT proof.

RELEASE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!


3 posted on 07/30/2008 12:53:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Neville72

#6 Does he now, or has he ever, bowed and prayed towards mecca?


4 posted on 07/30/2008 12:53:24 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomber Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: Neville72

“If any or all of these hypothesized facts are TRUE, why has Senator Obama deceived the American public?”

Because he doesn’t trust the ability of the U.S. voting public to make objective descisions. Or, for that matter, any kind of descision, freely arrived at, without prejudice.

The observation above is why I am greatly concerned that Senator Obama has the potential to become a tyrant (along the lines of say, Mugabe, President of Zimbabwe). I am not joking. Obama has been labeled a narcissistic megalomaniac, based on his speech in Berlin. He is scary.


5 posted on 07/30/2008 12:55:04 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: kingattax

Soetoro ping


6 posted on 07/30/2008 12:55:38 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Neville72

That Michelle’s remarks that Barak’s mother was “very single” when Barak was born likely means that he wasn’t born Barak Obama was he born “Barry Dunham” or...? Likely too his father’s name wasn’t on the birth certificate.

Apparently The Kenyan relatives knew Stanley Ann as Anna Toot.

Anna Toot just happens to be the name of one of Stanley Ann’s g-g-g-grandmothers, apparently she was something of a family hero.

Stanley Ann was too young to get married in Hawai’i without parental permission.

Suppose Stanley Ann, like many college students even today, had a drinkin’ ID? If she got it in the name of her namesake, it would be the only ID she could show to the justice of the peace to prove to him she could get married without parental permission.

On paper, Barak Obama marries Anna Toot.

Now Barack Sr. splits and leaves Stanley Ann in the lurch. What ID does she show the hospital? She’s mad at Barack Sr. She doesn’t wan to even acknowledge his existence at that point.

Nor does she want too many questions about being underage and preggers. Out comes the Anna Toot drinkin’ ID again.

Could it be he wasn’t born Barak Hussein Obama, he was born something more like Mortimer Snerdly Toot????

Toot? Toot? Who could vote for Mortimer Toot?


7 posted on 07/30/2008 12:57:50 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Neville72

There’s an interesting investigation and discussion going on about Obama’s eligibility to run, not based on place of birth but rather on divided loyalties due to likely dual citizenship.

Here’s a link:

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/divided-loyalties-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-2/

There’s also a Part 1, which goes into the legal issues. Both parts are lengthy, but very interesting and worth the time.


8 posted on 07/30/2008 1:00:18 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Neville72
If when he returned to Hawaii he used a name other that Barry Obama then there are school records.
11 posted on 07/30/2008 1:10:19 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Neville72
why has Senator Obama deceived the American public?

Liars lie. It's what they do best.

18 posted on 07/30/2008 1:34:02 PM PDT by giotto
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To: Neville72

There would have been a blood-type on the certificate but the guy who determined that was killed in a freak elevator accident before he could let anyone know.


23 posted on 07/30/2008 1:42:43 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Neville72

Say ‘Hello’ to President Lolo, Jr.


38 posted on 07/30/2008 2:51:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Neville72

All of this conjecture is moot because Obama has already proclaimed universally, “I am a citizen of the world”.

Case closed. End of discussion


40 posted on 07/30/2008 3:06:38 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Neville72

Here’s something to consider, and I speak of all this with first hand, personal knowledge of the procedure described in Hawaii, and in the specific time period in question.

Back in the 1960s, in Honolulu, the Hawaii Bureau of Vital Statistics had a policy of allowing unmarried mothers the option of not “disclosing” the name of a child’s father at the time of registering the birth.

Later, the mother could petition to have the record amended, or “regularized” in the parlance used at the time, to include the name of the “father”. Of course, the “father” named on the newly updated certificate was very often, perhaps most often, not the biological father of the child in question, but more likely the man the woman was to actually marry.

This expedited process was used to spare the time and expense of an adoption - but, strictly speaking, it involved a degree of fraud which was winked at by the authorities at the time.

It is easy for me to imagine that Ann Dunham might have declined to name Barak Obama Sr. as the father of her newly minted son at the time he was born, Obama being married to someone else at the time and all. “And all” also meaning that I have never seen any evidence that Ann Dunham and Barak Obama Sr. ever tied the knot themselves.

And, if Dunham did use this procedure for her little out-of-wedlock son, she just might have later had the name of Lolo Soetoro conveniently added to the Birth Certificate as the father of young Barry.

After all, she did marry the man and accompany him back to Indonesia. This process would have been very much eased and expedited if Soetoro were to have been named as the father of Ann Dunham’s young son.

But, it might be pretty hard to explain all this to a skeptical electorate in 2008. This theory, based in personal knowledge of the practice I describe, could explain the problem Barry has in coming up with an authentic birth certificate.


64 posted on 07/31/2008 4:25:23 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Neville72

Well, just who the hell is he? Really.


68 posted on 07/31/2008 7:21:30 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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