Posted on 07/29/2008 9:30:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN
Composite exchange of late seen too often at FreeRepublic:
Petulant Poster #1 Juan McCain is not a conservative. The Republican party jumped the shark by nominating this open borders, gang of fourteen, amnesty liberal. Hes a RINO, a dem in pubby clothing. The only thing that would persuade me to vote for McCain is if he picks ______ (fill in the blank, Mitt Romney, Michael Steele, Duncan Hunter, Jindal, Palin, Pawlenty, etc.) as his running mate.
Purist Poster #2 Im not voting this cycle. Its time for the Republicans to suffer for going so far leftward. The only way the nation is going to reject liberalism is to suffer the consequences of total liberal control.
Discussion shunning Poster #3 You support Obama, if you dont vote for McCain. Thats nice. Theres another website with initials DU where youd be more comfy.
Poster #1 You cant support the far left liberal Obama by default, think of the effect he will have on the supreme court with four years in office and a Democrat controlled House and Senate! Besides (pick your poison):
1) Romneys business background is what we need right now.
2) Palin is a woman who has run a state government so she would suit women voters
3) Jindal is a governor of a southern state and McCain cant win without the south
4) McCain needs a veep who can deliver X state
5) McCain has promised to nominate conservative judges
6) the variations are nearly endless from those trying to keep the focus on having a Republican, even a moderate-in-the-road republican in the White House
Poster #2 The veep doesnt get someone elected, theyre irrelevant to the voters. Besides, McCain wont nominate judges his democrat friends would not vote for.
Poster #3 How asinine! Youre spending your time trying to get Obama elected so the country can suffer so the people will embrace only conservatives in the future?
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Folks, lets take a moment to face the realities of what an Obama presidency with a democrat controlled House and Senate will look like and what the country will look like after four years of that scenario.
The founder of FreeRepublic is squarely insulted by a Romney for the top of the ticket Republican nomination. Worse to Jim and most of us regulars at FR would be a Rudy. But even Jim Robinson must be resigned to the reality that McCain is the nominee who will be on the ballot in November. Ive painfully resigned myself to that reality and now its time to get busy, not sit on my butt and complain.
Im curious what Jim Robinson thinks would be the state of the nation by 2012 if Barack Hussein Obama is elected president with a democrat controlled House and Senate? Im also curious what Jim thinks of the possibility that McCain would be more likely to listen to Republican traditional values during his time in the White House? And if the McCain stiff-necked method of doing politics can be focused upon resisting democrat wholesale liberalization of the Republic, Im curious what Jim Robinson would evaluate are the areas where McCain would need to be lobbied by still-engaged conservatives.
You see, the reality is, we cannot allow Barack Hussein Obama to become the president of the U.S. with a Democrat controlled House and Senate actually running the country with Hussein Obamas acquiescence and we all realize Obama is an empty suit who will not be running anything; the Carter presidency with a democrat controlled legislature taught us something, surely! And Jimmy was a heck of a lot smarter and more Christian than Barry Obama!
It really doesnt make much difference whom McCain picks, so long as the person can step in and be the resistance president should McCain become incapacitated. Folks, THAT IS the key to this election cycle, our Republican chance to prevent total demise of the Republic is a resistance presidency! I have a sneaky feeling the American people are not going to allow Obama to occupy the presidency. I also doubt Democrat control over House and Senate is likely to change in 2009, but we can work to prevent a 60 seat majority in the Senate.
If the Republican party plays this opposition presidency correctly, they can retake the Senate in 2010 and the veep McCain picks now can become the president in 2012. But we conservatives have got to resist pissing in our own cereal bowls to realize this future, because if the democrats control House, Senate, and the White House, they will institute legislation which will insure their continuing control and tightening regulation of every aspect of life in this once great Republic.
Our enemies are paying very close attention to the resolve of the American people to remain the sovereigns of our Republic. If we relinquish everything to the democrats at this crucial juncture, just because of our petulant purities, our enemies will have won our future.
Ping, fearless leader.
I’m fine. How are you?
Now if you are attempting to grand-stand or simply solidify the position of said conservatives, you are taking the right approach.
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I’m trying to get actual discussion. I would also like to rewad what Jim has to say regarding the future of this Republic should Hussein Obama gain the presidency with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Would you like to enter into discussion, or just offer condescension?
BTW, the three posters offered are not the only possibilities, and trying to marginalize the thread by asserting such foolishness isn’t productive.
I’m a proud purist and will be writing in Duncan Hunter rather than stoopping down to vote for either Juan McCain or Barry Hussein Obama.
I feel your pain ... and you mean for everyone to feel it for a long time, eh?
JIm comes around after he has had time to weigh the impact of SC nominees. The anti-McCainiacs claim he will nominate people as liberal as Obama would. That is pure hyperbole by the 3rd party wonks and quite ridiculous.
The bottom line is the GOP and conservatives will at least have a voice and an avenue of dissent, ala Harris, in the selection of a SC nominee, Obama will nominate and Pelosi/Reid will ram through judges worse than Ginsberg while they thumb their nose and toss raspberries at us.
I tend to disagree and believe the USA would survive.
This country is more resilient than, almost, any other country in the world. Like the old Timex commercial says, "It takes a licking and keeps on ticking."
That being said, if you want to continue the GOP's run to the left, be my guest. Your vote is your personal matter, as my vote is my own personal matter.
I have yet to decide whom I will vote for, other than to say it will not be for Obomba.
That doesn't mean it will be for McCain.
Photos of Eve Mendes should earn every Freeper who posts them a prize of some sort.
Yep. The GOP needs to be purged of its RINO element, and then grow a new backbone and get back to its Conservative roots.
If it takes a disastrous Obama Administration and Rat Congress to do it, then so be it! I will not vote for McCain, especially after he has told all of us Conservatives, in no uncertain terms, to bugger off.
Burn baby burn!
Just kidding...
Seriously, I have already relegated myself to biting my lip and pulling the lever for McVain this fall.
An Obama administration would leave this Republic in ruin. Forget about all the socialistic failures the leftist Government would foist upon us.
No, actually my worst fear is that a filibuster proof leftist majority in both houses coupled with a Karl Marx rubber stamp would basically find a way to gerrymander themselves into power forever.
Think about it - the left has been dying to get rid of the Electoral College ever since 2000. Middle America doesn't elect liberals. Big cities on the coasts do. And their populations are such now that a truly popular vote majority will almost always favor the big urban areas, and not rural America. The idea of representative government would be out the window.
The only salvation to this is that (I think) it would take a full blown amendment to do away with, and my hope is that 3/4 of the states would NEVER go along with such.
On a recent trip to NYC, I overheard two NYU liberals salivating at the possibility that the Electoral College should be done away with completely...
It's on their agenda folks.
BTW, I agree that labeling McCain non-voters with words such petulant and purist indicates that you are not simply seeking discussion. It reveals bias right off the bat.
BTW, try writing about the White House resident without using 'White' HOuse ... that's the sort of crap we will endure during his occupancy, and Michelle the hate-mongerer will be sure of that!
This election is a referendum on Obama and Socialism.
Even if McCain is a RINO, it’s not the banner he flies.
It’s Obama or No-’Bama.
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