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A FreeRepublic Op-ed for the political season
FreeRepublic.com ^ | 7/29/08 | MHGinTN

Posted on 07/29/2008 9:30:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Composite exchange of late seen too often at FreeRepublic:

Petulant Poster #1 Juan McCain is not a conservative. The Republican party jumped the shark by nominating this open borders, gang of fourteen, amnesty liberal. He’s a RINO, a dem in pubby clothing. The only thing that would persuade me to vote for McCain is if he picks ______ (fill in the blank, Mitt Romney, Michael Steele, Duncan Hunter, Jindal, Palin, Pawlenty, etc.) as his running mate.

Purist Poster #2 I’m not voting this cycle. It’s time for the Republicans to suffer for going so far leftward. The only way the nation is going to reject liberalism is to suffer the consequences of total liberal control.

Discussion shunning Poster #3 You support Obama, if you don‘t vote for McCain. That’s nice. There’s another website with initials DU where you’d be more comfy.

Poster #1 You can’t support the far left liberal Obama by default, think of the effect he will have on the supreme court with four years in office and a Democrat controlled House and Senate! Besides (pick your poison):
1) Romney’s business background is what we need right now.
2) Palin is a woman who has run a state government so she would suit women voters
3) Jindal is a governor of a southern state and McCain can’t win without the south
4) McCain needs a veep who can deliver “X” state
5) McCain has promised to nominate conservative judges
6) the variations are nearly endless from those trying to keep the focus on having a Republican, even a moderate-in-the-road republican in the White House

Poster #2 The veep doesn’t get someone elected, they’re irrelevant to the voters. Besides, McCain won’t nominate judges his democrat friends would not vote for.

Poster #3 How asinine! You’re spending your time trying to get Obama elected so the country can suffer so the people will embrace only conservatives in the future?

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Folks, let’s take a moment to face the realities of what an Obama presidency with a democrat controlled House and Senate will look like and what the country will look like after four years of that scenario.

The founder of FreeRepublic is squarely insulted by a Romney for the top of the ticket Republican nomination. Worse to Jim and most of us regulars at FR would be a Rudy. But even Jim Robinson must be resigned to the reality that McCain is the nominee who will be on the ballot in November. I‘ve painfully resigned myself to that reality and now it‘s time to get busy, not sit on my butt and complain.

I’m curious what Jim Robinson thinks would be the state of the nation by 2012 if Barack Hussein Obama is elected president with a democrat controlled House and Senate? I’m also curious what Jim thinks of the possibility that McCain would be more likely to listen to Republican traditional values during his time in the White House? And if the McCain stiff-necked method of doing politics can be focused upon resisting democrat wholesale liberalization of the Republic, I’m curious what Jim Robinson would evaluate are the areas where McCain would need to be ’lobbied’ by still-engaged conservatives.

You see, the reality is, we cannot allow Barack Hussein Obama to become the president of the U.S. with a Democrat controlled House and Senate actually running the country with Hussein Obama’s acquiescence … and we all realize Obama is an empty suit who will not be running anything; the Carter presidency with a democrat controlled legislature taught us something, surely! And Jimmy was a heck of a lot smarter and more Christian than Barry Obama!

It really doesn’t make much difference whom McCain picks, so long as the person can step in and be the ’resistance president’ should McCain become incapacitated. Folks, THAT IS the key to this election cycle, our Republican chance to prevent total demise of the Republic is a ‘resistance presidency’! I have a sneaky feeling the American people are not going to allow Obama to occupy the presidency. I also doubt Democrat control over House and Senate is likely to change in 2009, but we can work to prevent a 60 seat majority in the Senate.

If the Republican party plays this opposition presidency correctly, they can retake the Senate in 2010 and the veep McCain picks now can become the president in 2012. But we conservatives have got to resist pissing in our own cereal bowls to realize this future, because if the democrats control House, Senate, and the White House, they will institute legislation which will insure their continuing control and tightening regulation of every aspect of life in this once great Republic.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: apologistsforjuan; appeasement; compromise; election; mccainlist; mccainveeppick; missioncreep; neverscrewthebase; rino; rinofication; situationethics; whenrinosattack; yayanothervanity
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Fellow Freepers, don’t be so naïve as to think the democrats are not already writing the rough drafts of just such controls that will insure a handout/big government controls future immediately. The issue of drilling and energy independence via only ‘green’ means ought to tell us the democrats see things in a wholly twisted light from reality. Who makes more sense, T. Boone Pickens--who wants us to do it all to become energy independent, or Nancy Pelosi--who intends to have your energy needs under her governmental tight controls so that you will be at democrat party mercy and thus enslaved by their liberal agenda?

Our enemies are paying very close attention to the resolve of the American people to remain the sovereigns of our Republic. If we relinquish everything to the democrats at this crucial juncture, just because of our petulant purities, our enemies will have won our future.

1 posted on 07/29/2008 9:30:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Jim Robinson

Ping, fearless leader.


2 posted on 07/29/2008 9:30:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m fine. How are you?


3 posted on 07/29/2008 9:33:32 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I am voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: MHGinTN
Trying to open a discussion and change minds by labeling concerned conservatives as either petulant or purists is self-defeating.

Now if you are attempting to grand-stand or simply solidify the position of said conservatives, you are taking the right approach.

4 posted on 07/29/2008 9:35:28 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: MHGinTN

Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web.


5 posted on 07/29/2008 9:38:58 AM PDT by tumblindice (I picked my nose once and it bleeded.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m trying to get actual discussion. I would also like to rewad what Jim has to say regarding the future of this Republic should Hussein Obama gain the presidency with a Democrat controlled House and Senate. Would you like to enter into discussion, or just offer condescension?


6 posted on 07/29/2008 9:40:16 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SoConPubbie

BTW, the three posters offered are not the only possibilities, and trying to marginalize the thread by asserting such foolishness isn’t productive.


7 posted on 07/29/2008 9:42:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m a proud purist and will be writing in Duncan Hunter rather than stoopping down to vote for either Juan McCain or Barry Hussein Obama.


8 posted on 07/29/2008 9:43:40 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I feel your pain ... and you mean for everyone to feel it for a long time, eh?


9 posted on 07/29/2008 9:45:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

JIm comes around after he has had time to weigh the impact of SC nominees. The anti-McCainiacs claim he will nominate people as liberal as Obama would. That is pure hyperbole by the 3rd party wonks and quite ridiculous.

The bottom line is the GOP and conservatives will at least have a voice and an avenue of dissent, ala Harris, in the selection of a SC nominee, Obama will nominate and Pelosi/Reid will ram through judges worse than Ginsberg while they thumb their nose and toss raspberries at us.


10 posted on 07/29/2008 9:47:09 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: MHGinTN
You seem to think that the USA would not survive an Obomba Presidency.

I tend to disagree and believe the USA would survive.
This country is more resilient than, almost, any other country in the world. Like the old Timex commercial says, "It takes a licking and keeps on ticking."

That being said, if you want to continue the GOP's run to the left, be my guest. Your vote is your personal matter, as my vote is my own personal matter.

I have yet to decide whom I will vote for, other than to say it will not be for Obomba.
That doesn't mean it will be for McCain.

12 posted on 07/29/2008 9:51:08 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Bean Counter

Photos of Eve Mendes should earn every Freeper who posts them a prize of some sort.


13 posted on 07/29/2008 9:51:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: MHGinTN

Yep. The GOP needs to be purged of its RINO element, and then grow a new backbone and get back to its Conservative roots.

If it takes a disastrous Obama Administration and Rat Congress to do it, then so be it! I will not vote for McCain, especially after he has told all of us Conservatives, in no uncertain terms, to bugger off.

Burn baby burn!


14 posted on 07/29/2008 9:51:25 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: MHGinTN
IBTZ! :)

Just kidding...

Seriously, I have already relegated myself to biting my lip and pulling the lever for McVain this fall.

An Obama administration would leave this Republic in ruin. Forget about all the socialistic failures the leftist Government would foist upon us.

No, actually my worst fear is that a filibuster proof leftist majority in both houses coupled with a Karl Marx rubber stamp would basically find a way to gerrymander themselves into power forever.

Think about it - the left has been dying to get rid of the Electoral College ever since 2000. Middle America doesn't elect liberals. Big cities on the coasts do. And their populations are such now that a truly popular vote majority will almost always favor the big urban areas, and not rural America. The idea of representative government would be out the window.

The only salvation to this is that (I think) it would take a full blown amendment to do away with, and my hope is that 3/4 of the states would NEVER go along with such.

On a recent trip to NYC, I overheard two NYU liberals salivating at the possibility that the Electoral College should be done away with completely...

It's on their agenda folks.

15 posted on 07/29/2008 9:54:30 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: MHGinTN
I would also like to rewad what Jim has to say Whoa...I see a potential new classic FReeperism here. A hugh and series rewad ;) -- I'm voting against Obama this year- so I'll check the McCain box. I know too many combat soldiers who've been to Iraq two, 3 and 4 times. I honestly couldn't look them in the eye if I did anything to help elect Obama as their CIC.
16 posted on 07/29/2008 9:54:37 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MHGinTN; Jim Robinson
You seem to be speaking for Mr. Robinson in one breath, and asking for his opinion in the next. You might offer an actual quote by Mr. Robinson instead of telling me how you perceive his opinion ... unless, of course, you do actually speak for Mr. Robinson.

BTW, I agree that labeling McCain non-voters with words such petulant and purist indicates that you are not simply seeking discussion. It reveals bias right off the bat.

17 posted on 07/29/2008 9:55:17 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Just another Joe
The U.S. will survive if Barry gains the presidency, but it will be a very different place by the time Reid and Pelosi have changed it over four insidious years. If you can't consider that, sorry, but stick around and read the discussion.

BTW, try writing about the White House resident without using 'White' HOuse ... that's the sort of crap we will endure during his occupancy, and Michelle the hate-mongerer will be sure of that!

18 posted on 07/29/2008 9:55:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

This election is a referendum on Obama and Socialism.
Even if McCain is a RINO, it’s not the banner he flies.
It’s Obama or No-’Bama.


19 posted on 07/29/2008 9:57:24 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
So, instead of making a snide remark, why not offer a few alternate or extra 'posters' as members of the discussion? I began by stating the exhange is all too common of late, not asserting that it is the only exchange presently found here.
20 posted on 07/29/2008 9:58:16 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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