Hillary's PUMA supporters dissed by DNC

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=21552 ^

[dascallie]

Not much love between the Obamites and the Hillary PUMAs..to say the least! See thread content below:

(7-28-08) Negative Super Responses to PumaPac (PumaPac)

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PumaPAC is collecting all responses from Supers and the DNC that are ..hum...less then respectful to the voter expressing their opinion and/or asking that they continue to, or switch, support to HRC, as well as work to allow her name to be placed in nomination.

Plans are being made to use them as the GE draws closer. If you are a PumaPAC member you have the addy they asked these types of responses be mailed to.

A few samples of the ones beng saved are below. These are posted on PumaPac site - if you are not a member yet please consider joining. As Puma becomer more and more visable, the larger the official ranks, the louder the perceived and actual voice. There is strength in numbers

http://blog.pumapac.org/

Quote: — from Garry S. Shay, Member, DNC (CA) and Lead Chair Rules Committee, California Democratic Party, to a Democratic voter from California, July 18, 2008.

“The racist bullshit I have gotten from my fellow Clinton supporters has been enough to make me puke. You have a choice. No one would be forcing you. It is a choice. A choice you will have to live with. 100 years in Iraq if McCain gets elected. Thousands more dead American Soldiers.”

Quote: — from Dwight Pelz, WA State Democratic Party Chair and Super Delegate, to a Democratic voter in Maryland in response to an email she sent requesting an open convention and roll call vote, on July 18, 2008.

“Man, you have to chill. Try tennis!”

Quote: — from Steven Ybarra, a California Super Delegate, in response to a letter from a Democratic voter, July 8, 2008.

“Good for you, when the fascists come in the middle of the night to take you to a concentration camp, remember how you voted. Take me off your whiner list . . .then tell them to stop calling me telling me that they are going to vote for mccain. i am would rather vote for a rabid dog than any Fascist republican like mccain. read the declaration of independence.”

Note: I got this response too - it was the result of a daily growl

Quote: — from Ben Johnson, member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, to Sherry, a Democratic voter from Michigan, July 7, 2008.

“When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.”

Quote: — from Patti Higgins, Alaska State Party Chair and Superdelegate, to a Democratic voter who asked that she ensure an open convention and roll call vote for all the delegates, July 18, 2008.

“Having Senator Clinton’s name on a roll call without having the votes would just embarrass her, waste time, and make people agonize over nothing. I find it difficult to believe that this organization is not an undercover McCain operation. If you want to be productive, advocate for Senator Obama to choose Senator Clinton as his running mate.”

Quote: Arizona Super Delegate and former state senator, to a Democratic voter who requested that she help make sure that the Convention includes an open roll call vote as in years’ past, July 18, 2008.

GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN! Do not email us again. Thank you.” — from Carolyn Warner

Quote: — from Donna Brazile to Jennifer, a Democratic voter, May 2008 (Though she claims to be a working class person, Donna Brazile has been named one of the 50 Most Influential Women in America, is a best-selling author, and is represented as a speaker for hire by the Harry Walker Agency, the same firm that represents Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Michael Eisner, and Henry Kissenger.

“Honestly, this is the 9th email today, so I believe you’re ready to not only destroy Roe versus Wade, voting rights, civil liberties and civil rights. Perhaps adding trillions more to the deficits through non stop tax cuts to the wealthy and 100 more years in Iraq. Yes, please join Rush and McCain asap. The train has left. Catch it. Please don’t send these emails to working people like myself. Notice you sent it to my campus address. I am a working class person. Can you find someone who drinks latte? Message to the base: stay home.”

And there are more at the site

[Jeff Head]

There are hundreds of thosuands, if not millions of formner Hillary supporters who will not vote for or support Obama. Many of them are planning to vote for McCain.

They have started up web sites all over the net, and they are forming groups and organizations on their own to oppose Obama at the convention (where I believe they will absolutely fail) and beyond into the election.

On my AUDACITY OF TRUTH - NARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WEB SITE, I get emails from them where I explain that I am soldily conservative...but they brush that aside and thank me for the information which they are using to their own ends to defeat Obama.

...and it seems like the DNC leadership and Obama's campaign will drive them there.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON, BUT DON'T WANT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

NOBAMA '08 SIGHTED IN FLORIDA & KENTUCKY, JULY 2008

[SERKIT]

Operation Chaos + PUMA = President McCain

[rabidralph]

GOD WILL GUIDE THE HAND OF JUDGMENT THAT WILL STRIKE YOU DOWN!

This one was my favorite.

[VOR78]

Nothing like seeing the Democrat rank-and-file get a good dose of what the DNC is all about. I think this has been an eye opening experience for a lot of them and some will probably never go back to the party itself.

[Charlespg]

Quote: — from Ben Johnson, member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee, to Sherry, a Democratic voter from Michigan, July 7, 2008. “When God was giving out brains…you thought he said trains…and you missed yours. Who gives a croc what you do, its your business fool.

don't think much of their electorate do they?

[Carry_Okie]

Good for you, when the fascists come in the middle of the night to take you to a concentration camp, remember how you voted.

The idiot doesn't know that the NAZIs were the National Socialist Workers' Party. He's the fascist here.

No Christian would ever do such a thing, but when it comes to justifying what they intend to do, they don't let a mere psychotic fantasy get their way.

It's preparation. These people are truly dangerous.

[seekthetruth]

“Nothing like seeing the Democrat rank-and-file get a good dose of what the DNC is all about. I think this has been an eye opening experience for a lot of them and some will probably never go back to the party itself.”

But if Hillary manages to slide into the nomination at their convention they will be back to the party in a heartbeat! Hillary and Obama’s views and policies are the same, so obviously the Hillary supporters are just mad at the DNC because Obama won over Hillary. One would think that if they were voting for their DEM views and policies they would vote for Obama or Hillary over McCain.

[weegee]

McCain is a “fascist”?

By what measure?

I know that Obama is a socialist. I know that Barbara Boxer wants to nationalize the oil industry.

The Undemocratic Party marches on to anoint Obama.

[VOR78]

They will, but if that happens and Hillary somehow wins the nomination, I think you’ll see the same scenario occur where Obamabots suddenly start jumping ship and revolting against the DNC.

The only way they’ll heal the division is if Obama selects Hillary as VP, but many still won’t go along with it. And besides, Hillary has basically disappeared since giving that ‘unity’ speech. I don’t think she has any intention of jumping on the Obama bandwagon anymore than the DNC forces her to.

[weegee]

The riot in Chicago inside and outside of the convention center was because of dove/media support for Eugene McCarthy’s challenge to Hubert Humphrey’s campaign but moreso even their challenge of Mayor Daley and the DNC’s attempts to stifle any dissent from “party unity” getting behind THE candidate.

[weegee]

One would think that if they were voting for their DEM views and policies they would vote for Obama or Hillary over McCain.

[library user]

Which is why Obama needs a female VP to have any chance, and even then it would be a tough sell, because then you have two minorities on the same ticket. Too much change, too fast. Oh well, Obama, it was nice knowing ya...

[weegee]

www.votenader.org/

“Ralph Nader for President in 2008 - Official site of his independent presidential campaign, providing issue positions, campaign calendar, volunteer opportunities and contribution information.”

[weegee]

The McCain campaign is also considering a female running mate.

I see the disorder on the Democrat side as what has come to be known as a “perfect storm” (a combination of events) but I don’t see things to be so rosy on the Republican side either.

A McCain victory isn’t a hollow victory but it isn’t a victory for conservativism. Farrah at WND has said he won’t vote for either and essentially called them both evil.

I don’t find McCain to be evil but I do find his policies to be wrong headed. I find Obama’s agenda to be outright evil and a deliberate attempt to scale back to power and influence of the United States of America. That is contrary to the best interests of this nation and its people. Turning off our air conditioners and eating smaller portions just so the rest of the world doesn’t look down their collective noses at us is no virture. It is telling Americans our best days are behind us. I oppose THAT kind of CHANGE.

The Democrats got behind Obama in 2005 and behind McCain in 2006. We have them to thank for giving us candidates that we the people don’t want.

McCain is likely to be a one term president, his VP nominee stands to be the encumbant (even just as VP, as GHW Bush was). It is an important decision.

[Jeff Head]

Yes they are. Obama is the most in your face, militant anti-American, abjectly marxist candidate to every come close to the Presidency and all of his supporters and cohorts are feeling their oats.

[quintr]

this could be McCain’s landslide. But you know Barry O’s supporters are just going to say the election got stolen away from him.

Sore losers.

[PhiKapMom]

Have seen five Hillary supporters for McCain bumperstrips here in the Norman area and seven Democrats for McCain. Also saw two Vets for McCain on cars I know are Dems.

If these people treat the members of their own party this way, I cannot even fathom how they would treat the American public.

Obama HAS to be defeated and by such a large margin that they cannot claim the election was stolen. This is one of those moments in the Republican Party that you are either with us or against us. The contrast is so clear between the two candidates and their supporters that no self respecting Republican could even think of supporting Obama — hear that former Treasury Secretary turncoat O’Neill!

[Jeff Head]

Amen. The effort is much more about defeating Hussein, than unqualified support for McCain, because in many ways, it is very qualified. But at least with McCain we can qualify it...with Obama there is none.

[EQAndyBuzz]

This would be a good time for Hillary to declare herself a 3rd party candidate.

Now that would be fun to watch,.