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Pedal vs. Metal A surge in bike ridership spurs a new kind of road rage
Newsweek ^ | July 28, 2008 | Winston Ross

Posted on 07/29/2008 7:55:24 AM PDT by fightinJAG

When gas prices surged above $4 per gallon earlier this year, it didn't take Nostradamus to predict that there would be a resultant rush to carbon-free commuting options—especially in a place like Portland, which is known for its ample network of bike lanes. Cyclists in "Stumptown" are spinning their spokes here in unprecedented numbers, trading in their fuel-guzzling SUVs for stylish 27-speeds.

But the cycling surge has created conflict, as the new breed of commuters bumps up against the old, oil-powered kind.

First came a drunk cyclist repeatedly smacking the driver of a car with his bike July 6, before a passerby stopped the melee by knocking the pedaler to the ground with one punch (the driver happened to be a longtime cycling advocate, who'd kicked off the altercation by chiding the biker for blowing through a red light.)

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anger; cyclists; gasprices; roadrage; transportation
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To: EdReform

Generally, if you own a car, then your bicycle is covered by that policy when you are riding. One of those crazy things.

I use cleats and I personally don’t care how much I’m “inconvenienced” by uncleating. I prefer my body to be intact, thank you very much. I’ve even walked my bike through busy intersections, because I’m just not willing to challenge 50mph traffic.


121 posted on 07/29/2008 9:17:10 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: gracesdad

They wear silly pants . . .


122 posted on 07/29/2008 9:17:25 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: netmilsmom

>>Honestly, being right would not keep me from feeling guilty for a good long time.<<

I hit a pedestrian with my Scion xB roughly two years ago. I honestly did not know whether he lived or died. It was also not relevant to me, other than it is always tragic when any person is hurt or killed due to an accident. It was so clearly his fault that I had no guilt whatsoever. I was like the conductor of a train that hits a vehicle that goes around the warning bar at a crossing. I would have no more personal responsibility for the accident than one of the passengers of the train.

Maybe it is a male thing.


123 posted on 07/29/2008 9:18:10 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: TWohlford

I saw a cyclist get a speeding ticket on the STP a few years back. But I think it was more of a bragging rights thing for the guy. It was a 45 mph zone. ;)


124 posted on 07/29/2008 9:19:23 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: Grampa Dave
In our area, we have a problem with illegal aliens in our area riding stolen bikes

There... fixed it!:)
125 posted on 07/29/2008 9:19:39 AM PDT by TV Dinners
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To: driftdiver

I ride a lot, too. I have two rules when I ride. I ride like I’m invisible and I assume every car out there is trying to hit me.

I also drive a lot. Goes with my job.


126 posted on 07/29/2008 9:19:42 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

>>Dam’n Liberal!
Always looking for somebody else to pay for your free ride.<<
Not me. I paid for my bike.


127 posted on 07/29/2008 9:21:08 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: TWohlford

Yep, I drive a one-ton pickup. And when I see an erratic and stupid semi driver, I get the heck out of the way.

Why? Because I’m an engineer. I know, for a fact, a priori, that I will lose every single case where there is an infraction of Newton’s laws. Every single time. Without exception. 80,000+ pounds goes into 8,000 pounds 10 times with nothing left over.

I don’t care what the laws on paper say. Laws on paper are so much bum-wipe in the face of Newtonian physics.

I always get a kick out of watching drivers of small cars try to dart around semi’s with over-dimension loads here in the west. Things like the bed for a haul-pak, or a load of tires for same. There’s a cop in front, a cop in back, a flag car, and these idiots in sub-compact cars (it always seems to be a small car, not even a sports car) that gets a ‘tude on and decides that they’re going to pass these over-size processions.


128 posted on 07/29/2008 9:21:24 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Threats from behind the Keyboard... my favorites!


129 posted on 07/29/2008 9:21:47 AM PDT by TV Dinners
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To: crghill
More grist for the mill...

First came a drunk cyclist repeatedly smacking the driver of a car with his bike July 6, before a passerby stopped the melee by knocking the pedaler to the ground with one punch (the driver happened to be a longtime cycling advocate, who'd kicked off the altercation by chiding the biker for blowing through a red light.)

130 posted on 07/29/2008 9:21:52 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Just awesome! It is amazing what pointing a camera at a person will do.

Will he pay for the damage though?


131 posted on 07/29/2008 9:23:58 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: NVDave

As I like to put it: The mass/velocity equation does not favor the bicyclist.


132 posted on 07/29/2008 9:24:05 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: TWohlford
The noob cyclists, and many of the old-timers like me, need to learn the laws. Sadly, so do the cops in most areas. Bicyclists need to get tickets for traffic violations.

In my neck of the woods, the worst offenders of this are the Mexican illegal aliens.

133 posted on 07/29/2008 9:25:31 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: ravingnutter

The rules in the Hill Country are ride on the shoulder and if there is not a shoulder ride single file no more than three feet from the far right line.

For the most part bikes and vehicles get along in the Hill Country but there are a few bridges where the roads narrow making it a little scary.

A couple years ago when I was riding some A-Hole in a Pick-Up threw a beer bottle at the rider just in front of me and missed her her by around six inches.

The F-ing A Hole could have killer her.


135 posted on 07/29/2008 9:27:12 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: EdReform
If a cyclist were to hit a pedestrian and put them in the hospital, the cyclist had better have insurance or have the ability to pay for the damages. If it happened to me, no way would I use my personal insurance to pay the medical bills. My home owners policy would cover a situation like this... thanks.
136 posted on 07/29/2008 9:27:24 AM PDT by TV Dinners
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To: trumandogz

I used to have an old 1980 dodge d50 pickup that had expired tabs and no insurance. I would use it to drive to the store, take loads to the dump, but didn’t really drive it that much. It hit me one day that the truck cost me NO MONEY when I was not actually driving it. Man it was freeing. Naturally I looked for cops when driving it, but it looked good and blended nicely.

Why am I bringing this up? Wouldn’t it be great if both insurance and tabs were based on actual miles driven? It would incent drivers to only drive when they need to and only pay for actual use. I love the non-socialist concept of pay-for-play. You only pay for what you use. Imagine your car costing you nothing while it sits in the driveway.


137 posted on 07/29/2008 9:29:01 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: TWohlford
should pickup trucks be relegated to special trails that go nowhere close to something they’d like to drive to, or forced onto the sidewalks?

Speaking of sidewalks and rules of the road, did you know that as a vehicle, you're supposed to stop at red lights, even when turning right?

Same for stop signs.

Do you obey these traffic laws, or are you like all of the riders I see who think red lights and stop signs are only for *real* vehicles?

138 posted on 07/29/2008 9:29:02 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Baynative

I’ve got a Klein, aluminum frame, carbon fiber rear stays and front fork. Frame is rigid, but the carbon fiber does cut down the vibration quite a bit. I’ve done 70+ mile rides on it, and don’t get off my bike feeling like I’ve been beat to death. As a side note, I’m just about 50. (couple months to go)


139 posted on 07/29/2008 9:29:59 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: BraveMan

Friends don’t let friends wear Lycra...


140 posted on 07/29/2008 9:30:48 AM PDT by TV Dinners
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