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Don’t Make Sense A policy that deserves a dishonorable discharge.
National Review ^ | July 23, 2008 9:00 AM | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 07/28/2008 4:17:29 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan

As a House Armed Services subcommittee surely will discuss this afternoon, Pentagon officials evidently trust military inductees with felony rap sheets more than they do law-abiding gay GIs. Having relaxed academic, age, and weight restrictions to achieve recruitment goals, the Defense Department has granted “moral waivers” to criminal convicts. Simultaneously, it uses the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy to jettison gays in uniform, usually for merely disclosing their sexuality. This policy deserves a dishonorable discharge.

Between 2006 and 2007, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee recently revealed, convicted felons accepted by the Marine Corps rose 68 percent, from 208 to 350. Equivalent Army admissions rocketed 105 percent, from 249 to 511. Between 2003 and 2006, U.C. Santa Barbara’s Michael D. Palm Center calculates, “106,768 individuals with serious criminal histories were admitted” to the armed forces.

Last year, the Army gave moral waivers to 106 applicants convicted of burglary, 15 of felonious break-ins, 11 of grand-theft-auto, and eight of arson. It also admitted five rape/sexual-assault convicts, two felony child molesters, two manslaughter convicts, and two felons condemned for “terrorist threats including bomb threats.”

“The Army seems to be lowering standards in training to accommodate lower-quality recruits,” RAND Corporation researcher Beth Asch observed at a May 12 Heritage Foundation defense-policy seminar in Colorado Springs.

Conversely, expelled military personnel include Arabic linguists and intelligence specialists who help crush America’s foes in the War on Terror. “Don’t Ask” has ousted at least 58 soldiers who speak Arabic, 50 Korean, 42 Russian, 20 Chinese, nine Farsi, and eight Serbo-Croatian — all trained at the prestigious Defense Language Institute. Al-Qaeda intercepts need translation, and Uncle Sam may need people who can walk around Tehran with open ears. Yet these dedicated gay citizens now are ex-GIs.

Under “Don’t Ask,” the Pentagon reported in February 2005, only 1 percent of gays were sacked for pursuing or achieving same-sex marriage. Just 16 percent were dismissed for seeking or performing gay sex. Fully 83 percent of those fired between 1994 and 2003 merely stated their gay or bisexual status.

In March 2007, the Navy discharged Petty Officer Stephen Benjamin, an Arabic cryptologic interpreter. Supervisors investigated him when a message he transmitted said, “That was so gay — the good gay, not the bad one.” He also mentioned his social life, thus exposing his homosexuality.

His captain previously graded him an “EXCEPTIONAL LEADER. Extremely focused on mission accomplishment. Dedicated to his personal development and that of his sailors. Takes pride in his work and promotes professionalism in his subordinates.”

Never mind. Out he went. U.S. soldiers in Iraq now have one less colleague to give them translated, real-time, operational intelligence.

Meanwhile, Benjamin’s straight co-workers, whose instant messages were profane and sexually explicit, remain in uniform. Similarly, 28 straight soldiers who had sex in Afghanistan were reprimanded, but not axed, Drew Brown reported in the May 28 Stars and Stripes. Under an updated General Order No. 1, sex among single, straight GIs is now “highly discouraged,” but not prohibited.

“The bottom line is that the troops are responsible for their own behavior,” said Lt. Colonel Rumi Nielson-Green, a military spokeswoman for Regional Command East. Call this double standard “Don’t Tell, Don’t Get Caught.”

Of course, the Pentagon says it just enforces “Don’t Ask,” a law that a Democratic Congress passed and President Bill Clinton signed in March 1994. Dismissals of gay GIs, which had waned under Presidents Reagan and G. H. W. Bush, soared from 597 in Fiscal Year 1994 to 1,227 in FY 2001. These numbers dropped 48.9 percent to 627 in 2007, as President G.W. Bush battled in Iraq and Afghanistan. “Don’t Ask” terminations continued, but more slowly during wartime. The 105.5 percent spike in “Don’t Ask” firings under President Clinton exposes the lie that he was some kind of Martin Luther King Jr. to gay people. (For a statistical history of these discharges see the chart here.)

“Don’t Ask” recently lost two key proponents. One of its architects, Northwestern University’s military sociologist Charles Moskos, died in May. Former Senator Sam Nunn (D., Ga.), who led “Don’t Ask”’s enactment, now says “times change.” He remarked June 3, after “15 years go by on any personnel policy…it’s appropriate to take another look at it.”

As “Don’t Ask” expert Nathaniel Frank of the Palm Center notes, among the policy’s top boosters, only Colin Powell remains.

“We went from a three-legged to a one-legged dog in the same week,” Frank said. “At this point, nothing but political inertia is propping this animal up.”

That canine uniped is wobblier, thanks to a statement signed by two retired vice admirals and 26 retired generals. “We respectfully urge Congress to repeal the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy,” their communiqué reads. They argue that “As is the case in Britain, Israel,” and other countries where gays may serve truthfully, “our service members are professionals who are able to work together effectively despite differences in race, gender, religion, and sexuality. Such collaboration reflects the strength and the best traditions of our democracy.”

Since 1994, attitudes have changed. A December 18, 2006 Zogby poll of 545 GIs who served in Iraq and Afghanistan found that 73 percent considered themselves comfortable among gays. Also, 23 percent said they knew gay people in their units, while 45 percent believed they did. So, 68 percent of GIs confirmed or imagined that they worked with gay colleagues, with no evident clamor for their ejection. If there is a gay-fueled crisis in unit morale and cohesion, it appears to have gone undetected.

The battle-cry “Think of the children” also applies to this issue.

While gay couples and same-sex parents might disagree, gay service members generally are less likely to have spouses and kids awaiting them stateside. Therefore, pro-family conservatives should decry a policy that strips a childless gay soldier of his uniform, but keeps a straight GI in his body armor, far from his wife and kids, on multiple combat tours in Baghdad. Since 2003, NBC News reports, the Pentagon involuntarily has redeployed 58,000 such “stop-lossed” servicemen and women.

“We are asking for the responsibilities of citizenship,” says Victor Maldonado, spokesman for the Service Members Legal Defense Network, which opposes “Don’t Ask.” “We are being denied the responsibilities of citizenship, and then we are being pilloried for not being responsible citizens.”

Today’s hearing of the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Military Personnel will consider what to do about this policy. Here is a simple idea.

“Don’t Ask” should yield to equality: Sexual orientation should be irrelevant while inappropriate sexual conduct — gay, straight, or otherwise — should be punished. Our enemies are Islamofascists who murder Americans, not gay patriots who unravel terrorist plots and introduce jihadists to Allah.

“Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is a Clinton-era relic. It belongs in the Museum of the 1990s, wedged between the Nirvana CDs and shares of WorldCom stock.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dod; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; military
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This article it correct. It is about time that this policy comes to a end. If we are allowing criminals into the service and ones who have committed felonies then there is no reason why gay men and women who want to serve their country should not be allowed to serve in the military.
1 posted on 07/28/2008 4:17:29 PM PDT by FloridianBushFan
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To: FloridianBushFan

I think an equally important issue is that we’re letting felons and criminals in.


2 posted on 07/28/2008 4:21:18 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: FloridianBushFan

This is especially infuriating to people like me, who were turned down because we saw counselors for a few months or took medications or some other trivial thing when we were young.

The military is willing to allow convicts, but heaven forbid someone who is everything the military asks for and more be allowed in if he let his school counselor do her job.


3 posted on 07/28/2008 4:22:04 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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They are allowed to serve, just not be open and in your face about it. I think the policy is correct, as open homosexuality would likely be disruptive in a military situation. The only reason for homosexual soldiers to be “open” is to push the gay activist agenda.


4 posted on 07/28/2008 4:26:24 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: FloridianBushFan

Neither group belongs.


5 posted on 07/28/2008 4:27:23 PM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: FloridianBushFan

They are allowed to serve, just not be open and in your face about it. I think the policy is correct, as open homosexuality would likely be disruptive in a military situation. The only reason for homosexual soldiers to be “open” is to push the gay activist agenda.


6 posted on 07/28/2008 4:27:27 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: FloridianBushFan

Nope, we shouldn’t let gays or felons in the military. Just because felons are getting in is no excuse to let the gays in...two wrongs don’t make a right.....


7 posted on 07/28/2008 4:28:23 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: FloridianBushFan
I will be fine with it as soon as someone finds a solution for the barracks issue. The services do not have coed barracks rooms for a reason and I think that reason is very obvious. As for the Admirals and Generals in support, all I ask is that they explain when they last lived in a barracks with roommates and gang showers. Finally I totally agree that people who commit major crimes should not be let in period. Rape, sexual assault and the rest are not the types of individuals you want to work their way up the COC.
8 posted on 07/28/2008 4:34:26 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: FloridianBushFan
Between 2006 and 2007, the House Oversight and Government Reform
Committee recently revealed, convicted felons accepted by the
Marine Corps rose 68 percent, from 208 to 350.


I don't know that they had actual convictions, but
"back in the day" you'd hear of someone accepting a judge's offer
of "go into the military" rather than sending them off to jail.

IIRC, former governor Zell Miller got into the USMC via
that route.

(But in general, I'm not in favor of using the US Military as
a reform school for thugs.)
9 posted on 07/28/2008 4:34:38 PM PDT by VOA
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To: FloridianBushFan

Anyone remember when NR was conservative?


10 posted on 07/28/2008 4:35:42 PM PDT by rmlew (Liberalism is like AIDS; it destroys the natural defenses of a nation or civilization.)
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To: ChuckHam

Felons in the armed service, Felons in armed service possesing firearms. Would that be a precedent allowing ownership of firearms of convicted felons not in the service?Isn’t that a federal statute?


11 posted on 07/28/2008 4:37:43 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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The military shouldn't investigate people's sex lives. Its invasive of privacy and its demeaning. Both heterosexuals and gays who commit offenses against military discipline should be punished under the same standard. I've always felt that what two people do that is lawful, is no one else's business.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 07/28/2008 4:43:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Unam Sanctam
You shouldn't have to lie about who you are. There are other reasons you might unfit for military service other than your sexual preferences. There are certain questions we don't ask people. It doesn't mean I approve of homosexual behavior; its my belief that going around in people's bedrooms looking for evidence to "out" them is wrong, period.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 07/28/2008 4:47:18 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I’ve always felt that what two people do that is lawful.......................................In many states and jurisdictions it isn’t legal.The military is one of those jurisdictions, right along with infidelity, a few senior officers can tell you about that one


14 posted on 07/28/2008 4:48:15 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: goldstategop
You shouldn't have to lie about who you are.

"Don't ask" means just that, so there is no need to lie. I still think open homosexuality would be disruptive in the military.

15 posted on 07/28/2008 4:49:53 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: goldstategop

In case you don’t know, military service itself is invasive of peoples’ lives. One is on duty 24/7 and can be assigned to perform work far outside one’s MOS. In the lower ranks, the concept of privacy does not exist. None of this is demeaning - at least I never thought so - but it is demanding and allowing a sexual component (whether straight or gay) is fraught with peril. Well, we have accepted that women will serve in all but the combat arms units, but to allow gays to serve openly is to take a risk that should be avoided.


16 posted on 07/28/2008 5:01:19 PM PDT by quadrant
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A youthful indiscretion is a far cry from living an immoral lifestyle. At least the felons have (presumably) reformed and no longer engage in criminal activity. If the homosexuals are willing to abandon their immorality I would favor allowing them a chance to prove themselves. It seems unlikely the military would permit prior criminals to stay on if they admitted they were still engaging in inappropriate behavior.


17 posted on 07/28/2008 5:44:06 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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Rather than open homosexuals, I would rather have convicted felons who are granted admission to the armed services after an appearance in front of a board comprised of military personnel.

I have known a few people who have served time, and out of this small sampling of people they recognized what they had done wrong and were (are) trying to turn their lives around.

If a military board has examined their records and circumstances, granting them admission after an interview, I am okay with that. And these aren’t huge numbers they are talking about, either.

Just my opinion.


18 posted on 07/28/2008 5:56:50 PM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: FloridianBushFan

If anybody cares, here’s my 2 cents worth. I’ve supervised lots of airman and NCO’s, in many different locations, in peacetime and war. I would not have a problem with a gay or lesbian in my unit. I would have a problem with someone who couldn’t do the job, was disruptive or had poor discipline, couldn’t maintain standards, and wouldn’t do what was expected of them. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with that.


19 posted on 07/28/2008 7:29:47 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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Last year, the Army gave moral waivers to 106 applicants convicted of burglary, 15 of felonious break-ins, 11 of grand-theft-auto, and eight of arson. It also admitted five rape/sexual-assault convicts, two felony child molesters, two manslaughter convicts, and two felons condemned for “terrorist threats including bomb threats.”

WTF? FELONY CHILD MOLESTERS???? Huh?

20 posted on 07/28/2008 8:53:10 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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