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Who is McCain's Base? (Vanity)
Vanity | 7/27/2008 | Wasted Potential

Posted on 07/27/2008 1:53:14 PM PDT by wastedpotential

I have been in sackloth and ashes ever since the end of the Republican primary season dwelling on the mess we find ourselves in. Conservatives have watched the Republican nomination process get hijacked from them while they were debating whether our candidate should be socially conservative (Huckabee) vs economically conservative (Romney). Now we have McCain, who has historically proven to be mediocre at best on both sets of issues. His only strength was his view on the Iraq war.

Now that we appear to have turned the corner in Iraq, the whole withdrawal argument may be moot. If things continue this way, McCain will be reducing troop levels and bringing the home if elected president. So what is his candidacy about? If the Iraq war is basically won before the election, what is it that will define his candidacy?

Here's another question - who is McCain's base? Who will work the phones? Who will go door to door during the 72 hour GOTV? Who will organize and fund the 527 groups that can take shots at Obama that he can't (or won't) take himself, ala the Swiftboat Vets? More simply asked - who is passionate about McCain's candidacy?

The answer, to me is, nobody. Sure, a lot of us conservatives and disaffected union democrats will vote for McCain as the lesser of 2 evils, but who will "turn out" the voters? Who will sacrifice time from work and money from their budgets to see that he gets elected?

If I am right, I think that President Barack Hussein Obama will be in office come January, killing our way of life with an overwhelming Democrat Congress. Does anyone have a better answer?


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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

If he picked Tom Coburn somehow you’d claim that you were correct, that he didn’t pick a “conservative” running mate, and that you still aren’t going to vote for him. Why won’t I be surprised.


61 posted on 07/27/2008 2:44:40 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: wastedpotential
Who will organize and fund the 527 groups that can take shots at Obama that he can't (or won't) take himself, ala the Swiftboat Vets?

McCain still says he wants 527's outlawed, so only those operating independently might have any impact on the election.

It could be interesting to see how McCain would respond, if someone formed a 527 specifically to help McCain, since McCain wants them outlawed.

That would be something: someone forming a 527 to help McCain in spite of McCain.
62 posted on 07/27/2008 2:47:29 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BlessedBeGod

Although we haven’t heard very much about it, I think Jeremiah Wright, TUCC, and Black Liberation Theology is going to be Obama’s Achille’s heel. That is, if his gigantic ego doesn’t do him in first.

When I read comments of Dems against Obama, Jeremiah Wright and BO’s 20 year membership at TUCC come up again and again.

It defies logic to think that BO was not affected by what Rev. Wright preached from his pulpit.


63 posted on 07/27/2008 2:49:17 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Obama is for OBAMA. A selfless, civic minded thought would die of loneliness in his head.)
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To: wastedpotential

He will sell us out faster than you can say United Nations.


64 posted on 07/27/2008 2:49:23 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: bethtopaz

Although we haven’t heard very much about it - lately!


65 posted on 07/27/2008 2:51:24 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Obama is for OBAMA. A selfless, civic minded thought would die of loneliness in his head.)
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To: indylindy

“But I am also not inclined to vote for a man who shares none of my beliefs.”

You are psyching yourself out. If you think you actually share no beliefs with McCain I want to know where you are at on the spectrum because I just haven’t seen that place. McCain has a lifetime 82% ACU rating and yet you share no beliefs (I know, I know: 70-something after 2000, right McCain haters?).

Buck up. Get tough. If everyone is going to act like whiners we WILL lose and you will go down with us. Even if you don’t have a taste for McCain to think Obama is preferable is nuts. The GOP is a party of millions. Compomise is the nature when you deal with such numbers. McCain is just another in a line of candidates the party has nominated. Well qualified, and somewhat more moderated but at least wholly acceptable to anyone not thrilled about B.H.Obama as POTUS.


66 posted on 07/27/2008 2:51:37 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates
get one tenth passionate we might have a chance of winning.

How the hell can one do that?

One is either passionate or they are not.

McCain ain't helping his case either.

Amnesty - McCain / Kennedy
Free speech - McCain / Feingold
Excessive bi-partisanship
Early troop pull-out
Big government / spender
And the beat goes on

67 posted on 07/27/2008 2:51:54 PM PDT by Eaker (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. (H.)
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To: bethtopaz

Scared, fear and terrified are the words I am hearing and reading regarding the election of obama. Comments on news sites and talk radio callers. Grown men calling into talk radio saying they fear obama. I don’t recall those words used when kerry was running.

kerry disgusted me. obama scares me so, that when I think about him getting elected, I get a quickening feeling in my stomach.


68 posted on 07/27/2008 2:55:35 PM PDT by CaliGirl-R
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To: Norman Bates
Others aroung here just whine.

Your crappy attitude ain't helping your case a bit n00bie.

In fact it reflects very poorly on McCain if this is how a McCain supporter comports themselves.

69 posted on 07/27/2008 2:57:09 PM PDT by Eaker (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. (H.)
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To: indylindy
I'm right where you are on this. The MSM selected our candidate, because they knew that true conservatives would never back him wholeheartedly.

In my view, the very best thing we can hope for is for Obama to look like he has a very wide lead during the last weekend before the election. I'd like to see red state America and the red parts of blue states get scared to death, and toss out the Democrats they sent to Congress two, four, and six years earlier.

I fear McCain and a Democrat Congress far worse than I fear Obama and a Republican Congress.

70 posted on 07/27/2008 2:57:12 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Obama presidency, we won’t have a Constitution in 2012.

That kind of response is nothing but fear-mongering.

Check their actual records and McCain has been responsible for more legislation that opposed the Constitution than Obama has.

Campaign Finance Reform -- McCain-Feingold: a direct assault on the First Amendment.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform -- McCain Kennedy: a direct assault on the fabric of American culture.

Note that whenever McCain authors a 'reform' bill, it is an assault on some portion of the American character.

Maverick McCain in the White House is almost as scary as Obama in the White House, because McCain has a legislative history of assaults.
71 posted on 07/27/2008 2:57:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: wastedpotential
i expect conservatives will come out in support of mclame with the same passion for which he's supported them all these years. (that would be humorous if it involved some trivial matter)

It appears he's expecting la raza and his moderate liberal buddies to make up the difference from the conservatives that stay home. Newsflash: their going to the ball with someone else.

for myself, try as i may, i haven't yet come up with a reason to support his loser strategy. Certainly cant imagine why i’ll send a RINO any money.

this is a train wreck in the making.

72 posted on 07/27/2008 2:58:47 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Eaker

“get one tenth passionate we might have a chance of winning.

How the hell can one do that?

One is either passionate or they are not.”

Try a $10 donation to JohnMcCain.com. LOL! It’s not passionate but it’s about 1/10ths passionate in my book. It’s a start!


73 posted on 07/27/2008 3:00:18 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: TheWasteLand
backed away from

LOL

When the other guy changes positions in mid stream, it is a flipflop.

When your guy changes positions in mid stream, it is 'backing away from'.

Isn't it curious how we excuse those things from one and try to brand the other guy for them.
74 posted on 07/27/2008 3:00:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: wastedpotential

I favor McCain and oppose Obama because McCain is standing up for national defense and is strong in the war on terror. Obama believes the heroes of the war on Islamic extremism are the anti-war activists who supported him in the primaries, not the troops.


75 posted on 07/27/2008 3:03:15 PM PDT by Aln in Eastern WA (We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement... GWB, May 2008)
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To: Eaker

Hey you’re reflecting poorly upon yourself if you think your crappy attitude will keep Obama out of the White House. Congratulations on being the first ever to call me a noobie. I’d say you’re about 3-1/2 years too late.


76 posted on 07/27/2008 3:04:31 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates
Try a $10 donation to JohnMcCain.com. LOL! It’s not passionate but it’s about 1/10ths passionate in my book. It’s a start!

Cold day in hell unless he gets right on the points below that you failed to address.


Amnesty - McCain / Kennedy
Free speech - McCain / Feingold
Excessive bi-partisanship
Early troop pull-out
Big government / spender
And the beat goes on

77 posted on 07/27/2008 3:04:41 PM PDT by Eaker (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. (H.)
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To: Norman Bates

See post 77 ya “passionate feeling” n00bie.


78 posted on 07/27/2008 3:05:56 PM PDT by Eaker (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. (H.)
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To: CaliGirl-R

During 2004 I could only find one website made by Democrats that were against Kerry. It was “KerryHatersForKerry.”

They hated Kerry, but hated George Bush even more. It was a pretty comical site and they were so relieved when he lost.

Now I am finding hundreds, I mean, HUNDREDS of websites by Democrats against Obama.

This dude is freaking America out.

I’m not sure if there’s anything he can do to make this better.

The Obama crowd wants to blame it on racism, but it has nothing to do with racism.

Since BO is a man of next to no accomplishments, we can only judge the man by his associations and background.

What those two things say about him are not good for America.

It’s undeniable.

Good speaking ability (with a teleprompter) and trekking all over Europe and the Middle East trying to look Presidential are no small comforts for the very troubling facts we are discovering about Barack Hussein Obama.


79 posted on 07/27/2008 3:07:08 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Obama is for OBAMA. A selfless, civic minded thought would die of loneliness in his head.)
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To: captmar-vell
It appears he's expecting la raza

After all of McCain's Hispandering and Comprehensive Immigration Reform promises, La Raza chose to endorse Obama last weekend.

What a slap in the face that must have been for McMaverick.
80 posted on 07/27/2008 3:09:34 PM PDT by TomGuy
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