Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Barack Eisenhower and John McNixon [He's a General now]
Capital Times ^ | 7-23-08

Posted on 07/23/2008 4:30:51 PM PDT by SJackson

Barack Obama has begun, finally and reasonably firmly, to clarify his stance regarding the scope and character of the ongoing U.S. role in Iraq. In so doing, the senator from Illinois has imposed clarity on a race for the presidency that, while it certainly is not a single-issue contest, will always at its fundamental level be about whether America is going to elect a president who plans to end the war or one who intends to manage it.

The presumptive Democratic nominee for president says that on his first day in office he will begin the process of extracting U.S. troops from Iraq so that they -- and the United States -- can get serious about combating terrorism.

Noting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's request for a withdrawal timetable, Obama explained in a much-anticipated recent speech that "now is the time for a responsible redeployment of our combat troops that pushes Iraq's leaders toward a political solution, rebuilds our military, and refocuses on Afghanistan and our broader security interests."

Of course, the presumptive Republican nominee for president cut Obama no slack. Unlike his rival, John McCain says -- with an odd combination of bluster and vagueness -- that he's against an exit strategy because "I know how to win wars."

The difference between Obama and McCain, we are told, comes down to this:

The Democrat who would be president has set a serious strategy for bringing the war (or "police action" or "occupation" or whatever you want to call it) in Iraq to a relatively rapid conclusion, even if that conclusion is imperfect and open to criticism. That strategy is flexible -- perhaps more flexible than some of the candidate's more ardent supporters would like -- but it is real and it is likely to be implemented along a schedule that would begin with his inauguration on Jan. 20, 2009.

The Republican who would be president absolutely rejects any strategy that is defined by the American people or their representatives in Washington for bringing the war (or "police action" or "occupation" or whatever you want to call it) to the conclusion that Obama proposes. Only "events on the ground" in a country that -- despite McCain's hysterically inflated fantasies about the "success" of his beloved "surge" -- has seen little progress toward long-term political, ethnic and social stability will determine McCain's schedule.

This distinction is best understood as a clash between the approaches of two presidents who inherited unpopular wars.

Obama is an Eisenhower man. Dwight Eisenhower, who had served as supreme commander of the Allied forces in Europe during World War II, campaigned for president in 1952, when the United States was mired in the quagmire that was the Korean War. Ike's promise during that campaign was to "go to Korea" and end the war. Upon his election, that is what he did.

McCain is a Nixon man. Richard Nixon, who had served as a supply clerk during World War II, campaigned for president in 1968, when the United States was mired in the quagmire that was the Vietnam War. Tricky Dick refused to be pinned down regarding timelines or strategies for addressing the mess in Vietnam, suggesting simply that "new leadership will end the war and win the peace in the Pacific." So vague was Nixon that his Democratic opponent in the race, Hubert Humphrey, suggested that the Republican must have a "secret plan" regarding the war.

As it turned out, Nixon's plan was to keep the war going. Unlike Eisenhower, who stopped the killing, Nixon, guided by "events on the ground," illegally expanded the undeclared war from Vietnam into Cambodia and Laos. Tens of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of southeast Asians died before the fighting finally wound down a half-decade after the Republican's election.

Non-defensive wars end not when circumstances "on the ground" in distant lands dictate but when presidents who choose to be leaders rather than managers of misery decide to end them.

Barack Obama, like Dwight Eisenhower, proposes to be a leader.

John McCain, like Richard Nixon, proposes to be a manager of misery -- and the American decline that will hasten with each passing year of the quagmire in Iraq.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cluelessidiot; foreignpolicy; obama
This Obama virus is a deadly thing, leads to a form of dementia.

And yes, I could see Barry, as Commander in Chief designing himself a uniform.

1 posted on 07/23/2008 4:30:51 PM PDT by SJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SJackson
So it's "tricky" McCain the POW who has no command experience in wartime just like the "supply clerk"??

They are going to have to work to get any more snide and nasty. I have read at least three columns from "journalists" every day that would have gotten me in a fist fight if said to my face. This is the third today. Signing off.

2 posted on 07/23/2008 4:55:07 PM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
Obama is an Eisenhower man. Dwight Eisenhower, who had served as supreme commander...

McCain is a Nixon man. Richard Nixon, who had served as a supply clerk during World War II


so, the only one here who HASN'T served is....
3 posted on 07/23/2008 5:13:30 PM PDT by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
Nixon campaigned on the slogan that he had a secret plan to end the war. Eisenhower never ended the Korean War since we are still their and technically at war. There may be a temporary break in actual shooting but that is not the same as ending the war in the fashion that Obama talks about were he wants to pull out regardless.
4 posted on 07/23/2008 5:14:37 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

The nutjob writer of this piece got the wrong president to compare Barack Hussein Obama with...Jimmy Carter is a much better fit...Jimmy did not involve the US in any wars...he gave away everything before trouble started.


5 posted on 07/23/2008 5:15:23 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (With McCain around we can proudly proclaim, WE ARE SO SCREWED)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
How can the author compare Obama to Eisenhower? Eisenhower never was a community organizer. Eisenhower never wrote a masterpiece like Dreams from My Father. Eisenhower never won a Senate seat almost uncontested. Sure, Ike directed the invasion of Normandy, ran Columbia University for a while, and did some other stuff, but nothing to compare to Obama's accomplishments.
6 posted on 07/23/2008 5:44:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stylin19a

Our CommandO in Chief in waiting.


7 posted on 07/23/2008 5:59:58 PM PDT by SJackson (Israelis simply think about own security regardless of what's going on beyond their borders, Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Verginius Rufus
Nor did he rely on hope. He relied on detailed planning. Worse yet, it his most famous inspirational message, perhaps the most significant in American history, he not only used the C word, in the second line no less, he capitalized it.

Somehow I don't associate the Obamamaniacs with a Great Crusade.

8 posted on 07/23/2008 6:05:07 PM PDT by SJackson (Israelis simply think about own security regardless of what's going on beyond their borders, Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Talk about drinking the kool-aid!


9 posted on 07/23/2008 6:06:18 PM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

OMG....The lunatics are running wild!


10 posted on 07/23/2008 6:11:18 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Eisenhower threatened China with Nuclear weapons to force concessions out of the then communist power. When Obama makes similar threats against Iran the comparison might start to hold.


11 posted on 07/23/2008 6:13:13 PM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Barack McGovern.


12 posted on 07/23/2008 6:22:29 PM PDT by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Eisenhower committed the unforgivable offense of using the word “crusade” when writing about the war later. Didn’t he have any concern for the sensibilities of Arab Muslims?


13 posted on 07/24/2008 7:56:30 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson