The blood of 20,000: the genocide charges Radovan Karadzic faces`(with video link)

Channel 4 News ^ | Wednesday, July 23, 2008 | Nick Paton Walsh

[canuck_conservative]

Radovan Karadzic is accused of the most heinous crimes against humanity, from the siege of Sarajevo to the Srebrenica massacre.

He is charged with having the blood of 20,000 lives on his hands and of bringing an entire country down by ethnic hatred.

Today relatives of the thousands of victims said they had been waiting for this moment of justice for 13 years.

[Citizen Blade]

and Clinton bombed and killed Serb Christian children and Christian Serb grandmothers.

My aunt and uncle live in Belgrade. Though certainly no fans of having their city bombed, they told me that after realizing how accurate American bombing was, they really didn't have any fear that they would be hit with a bomb.

They were more in fear of Milosevic's goons, since they both worked for opposition groups.

war is hell. There are no rules in war.

So I guess we shouldn't have tried and hanged Nazis at the end of WWII?

but the Serbs didn’t commit any genocide

Serbian paramilitary groups committeed atrocities in Bosnia. There is no rational way to deny that.

[Diocletian]

of course the photos are photoshopped! I was on that island the same time the good doctor was.....very interesting.

[DTA]

>>>>>and they were successfully sued for libel by ITN<<<<<

Since you pretend to know your stuff, why you do not say the whole of the truth and nothing but the truth?

It is true that ITN sued successfully, but what was the verdict? Why you ommit it? Let me guess. It shatters your garbage to piecess. Ms. Penny Marshhall of ITN successfully sued LM for libel. Verdict was that LM HURT HER FEELINGS, not that LM lied and printed untruth.

LM was telling the truth and this truth hurt the feelings of Penny Marshall. In other words, the fact that ITN lied was proven in English court.

English libel laws are notorious for alowing lies triumph in court.

Penny Marschall vs. LM is a travesty of justice the same way Liberace case was.

Your Islamofascist/Liberal propaganda is heavy maintenance, if you do not add more new garbage every day, the truth comes out.

[DTA]

Can liberal goons make their mind and lie consistently?

This is one of the postulates of the their propaganda.

Remember, it's "8000 men and boys" in Srebrenica and "200 000 poor innocent Bosnian Muslims".

If the same numbers are not repeated consistently 1000 times, people will start asking questions, and when people start asking questions, and start looking up facts, the inconsistencies will show up and the lie will be exposed.

I understand that you are eager to support Islamofascist lies because of your hatred of Serbs as a people. But don't let your temper cloud your task. Proof read all articles and post only ones consistent with the official Islamofascist mantra.

[Diocletian]

Do you now understand how Croatians felt after being demonized for 50 years re: inflated numbers of Serb dead?

[BabaYaga]

Have you attended his lectures? :-)

[DTA]

>>>>>Do you now understand how Croatians felt after being demonized for 50 years re: inflated numbers of Serb dead?<<<<<<

No. There is a difference. The number of Ustasha victims was doubled, at most. And Ustashas were Nazis who lost the war.

With Bosnian civil war, story is different. It was four side conflict, where 108 000 people were killed on ALL FOUR SIDES during war. The number of dead combatants and civilians is established by ICTY and Bosnian Muslim government does not deny it, yet they lie about 200 000 muslim civilians killed by Serbs.

This macabre arythmetics augmented TENFOLD the number of actual Muslim civilian casualties.

When we have in mind that Croatian Nazis deliberately diminish the number of Serbs murdered by ustasha also tenfold, we get the picture where the number of murdered Serbs vs. number of murdered Muslims is distorted HUNDRED fold.

The whole lie is intended as an attempt to whitewash the only genocide that occurred in Bosnia, genocide of Serbs, Jews and Roma in Croatian Nazi Independent State of Croatia.

[Hoplite]

Verdict was that LM HURT HER FEELINGS, not that LM lied and printed untruth.

Wrong answer, DTA.

The thrust of LM's article was that Marshall et al misrepresented what they saw:

It was not a prison, and certainly not a 'concentration camp', but a collection center for refugees, many of whom went there seeking safety and could leave again if they wished.

ITN therefore took LM to court where Hume and Deichmann recanted the thesis of their article.

There has never been any question in my opinion or in the article that I published that this camp was anything other than a grim place at which there were beatings, there were killings and there were rapes. There has never been any question of that. We have never argued contrary to that. - Michael Hume

I do not say that they at the time were able to leave and there - you know, there were fences, there were guards, which we have seen here, armed guards. - Thomas Deichmann

In short, Serbs operated concentration camps in Bosnia, Marxists tried to cover their asses by accusing those who reported on those camps of lying, but were ultimately forced to admit that they themselves were the ones who were lying - a complete abject defeat which only the stupid or the ignorant overlook in their attempts to reinsert LM's garbage into public debate.

[Diocletian]

No. There is a difference. The number of Ustasha victims was doubled, at most. And Ustashas were Nazis who lost thewar.

You still don't get it.

As for the numbers of Serbs killed at Jasenovac, that number was multiplied by a factor of 10 to 30, depending on which source you use.

Reading the rest of your post, it's obvious that you just don't get the point. You wish to demonize Croatians for what they did to Serbs...but when Serbs acted brutally to others, you scream "demonization".

You can't have your cake and it eat too.

[Diocletian]

Correct hoplite. It’s quite interesting that some will resort to out and out Marxist slander to bolster their weak positions.

[DTA]

>>>>>In short, Serbs operated concentration camps in Bosnia<<<<<

Trnopolje was advertised as DEATH CAMP and labeled BELSEN by the British media. The name of Belsen was used because it is synonym with the Holocaust in Britain (Brits liberated Belsen).

The death camp (i.e. extermination camp) s different thing from concentration camp. Americans operated concentration camps in The Philippines and Brits operated concentration camps in Boer war, but these were not death camps, although people died there.

Calling Trnopolje BELSEN was the brazen act of Holocaust revisionism that went unpunished.

If Trnopolje=Belsen, then Belsen=Trnopolje.

Get a fresh set of kneepads.

[DTA]

>>>>>>>As for the numbers of Serbs killed at Jasenovac, that number was multiplied by a factor of 10 to 30, depending on which source you use.<<<<<<<

Do you consider Donja Gradina killing fields on the confluence of Sava and Una rivers as a part of Jasenovac system of extermination camps or not? I guess not.

The bulk of killing in Jasenovac extermination camp took place in Donja Gradina, downstream from Jasenovac Brickworks compound, because Brickworks was adjacent to the railroad tracks and was not convenient place for mass murder.

Following your reductio ad absurdum, one could claim that only 200 000 people were murdered in Auschwitz. There must be a minuscule part of Auschwitz system of extermination camps where 200 000 were murdered, and then this figure could be applied to the entire complex, like you do for Jasenovac.

Your claim that Ustasha's crimes are augmented 30x speaks for itself.

Your problem is evidence in Donja Gradina.

[BabaYaga]

Calling Trnopolje BELSEN was the brazen act of Holocaust revisionism that went unpunished.

Exellent point DTA! Manipulating heavy emotions is always a short way to intensive dehumanisation and demonisation.

[Diocletian]

We’re not talking about Auschwitz....we’re talking about Srebrenica and Jasenovac. The totals for Jasenovac are little different from when Defense Secretary Cohen claimed that “100,000 Albanians could be dead” in Kosovo. The scientific research conducted by Serb Kocovic and Croatian Zerjavic hit the same numbers...no one else used scientific approaches. Combine that with the fact that Communist Politburo member Milovan Djilas, a Montenegrin Serb, admitted openly that the numbers were inflated and it’s a closed case. Some 530,000 Serbs died during WW2 in all of the former Yugoslavia from all war-related causes. This makes the 700,000 killed by the Ustashe impossible.

[eleni121]

What kind of BS Channel 4 is this?

This is BS British propaganda aimed at the Mooslems in their own sordid country. Keep them muted and satisfied with exagerrations and lies against a Serb.

[Hoplite]

Cry me a river.

If you don't want to be likened to the Nazis, don't act like them.

Above all, avoid setting up systems of concentration camps and perpetrating genocide.

Too difficult to grasp?

Demonstrably so.

[eleni121]

...avoid setting up systems of concentration camps and perpetrating genocide...

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I see the big lie technique ruins strong among the apologists for islamofascism around here.

The only “concentration” camps were the ones that heroic Serb Christians died in AND the only genocide was the one that Muslims and Croatians have perpetrated under the helpful guidance of the Nazis.

[Democrat_media]

Yeah Clinton’s tanks were very accurate in Waco Texas too after Clinton sent tanks to burn 100 women and children alive there.

And Clinton bombed Serbian cities for Islam and he did kill women and children , the commie Clinton.

And Clinton tried to impose government healthcare on the American people - that’s communism.

[kosta50]

This is worse than British or American tabloids writing about people abducted by aliens. Can "Slodona Dalmacija" not even try to make doctored photographs at least appear believable or is this newspaper now a satirical daily?

[kosta50]

The death camp (i.e. extermination camp) s different thing from concentration camp. Americans operated concentration camps in The Philippines and Brits operated concentration camps in Boer war, but these were not death camps, although people died there

Japanese Americans were interned in American concentration camps and the only way out was for the males to volunteer to serve in the US Army. Many of them were American-born. It took the US 60 years to apologize to its citizens of Japanese ancestry.

Get off your soap Hopless. The video of the ITN farse exists showing that the "prisoners" were on the wrong side of the fence—the outside! The whole thing was intended to rouse the world's Jewish public opinion and use its influence to help the Muslims.

The same tactic was used with Albanians. To their shame, they were duped both times. The Serbs did nothing different in Kosovo then what the Isralis did fighting terrorists and insurgents.