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The blood of 20,000: the genocide charges Radovan Karadzic faces`(with video link)
Channel 4 News ^ | Wednesday, July 23, 2008 | Nick Paton Walsh

Posted on 07/23/2008 7:13:37 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

Radovan Karadzic is accused of the most heinous crimes against humanity, from the siege of Sarajevo to the Srebrenica massacre.

He is charged with having the blood of 20,000 lives on his hands and of bringing an entire country down by ethnic hatred.

Today relatives of the thousands of victims said they had been waiting for this moment of justice for 13 years.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; dhimmwit; genocide; karadzic; massacres; massmurders; serbia; warcrimes
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Srebrenica


Video link at site.


1 posted on 07/23/2008 7:13:37 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

He’s really just a sweet guy, it was all a big misunderstanding invented by the vast international anti-Serbian conspiracy, and Miladin Kovacevic is a gallant young man.


2 posted on 07/23/2008 7:19:52 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: canuck_conservative

....old Europe knows that that Islam is rising up again in the East....they also know that the last time this happened Muslims made it all the way to Budapest....that’s why they were content to let Christian Serbs play the role of Horatio-at-the-Bridge....oh they’ll try and hang Karadzic all right, but in the end what’s left of European Christendom will have to get their hands dirty too....as will we....Islam is coming and it will only be stopped by force.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 7:26:26 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: canuck_conservative
The problem:

After Trnopolje, which part of this BS are we supposed to go on believing?

The accusers have no credibility.

4 posted on 07/23/2008 7:30:00 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: canuck_conservative

Another psychiatrist who is actually themselves nuts.


5 posted on 07/23/2008 7:39:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: STONEWALLS

Yup.


6 posted on 07/23/2008 7:50:42 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: wideawake
Islam, the liberal media, the Albanian Muslims, and Clinton framed the Christian Serbs. The ones who committed genocide are the Albanian Muslims in the former Yugoslavia. Muslims have always been the instigators of war. Muslims are the perpetrators of genocide as they have always been the perpetrators of genocide. Read history.

Many of the figures used by the Clinton administration and NATO to describe the wartime plight of Albanians in Kosovo now appear greatly exaggerated as allied forces take control of the province ... Instead of 100,000 ethnic Albanian men feared murdered by rampaging Serbs, officials now estimate that about 10,000 were killed. But is the 10,000 number accurate? The Orange County Register, in a Nov. 22, 1999, editorial, said: Months after the bombing has ceased, United Nations and European Union investigations have bolstered what critics had argued: NATO's estimates of Serbian genocide against the Kosovars were greatly overblown. Many observers now think the inflated numbers simply were part of the Clinton-led propaganda effort to build support for the war. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1532010/posts

?But Mr. Milosevic, the leader of Serbia at the time, said the people really responsible for the mass killings were French intelligence operatives, Muslim officials from Bosnia and mercenaries.

The ''insane'' Srebrenica massacre, he said, was a plot to frame the Serbs by making it seem as if they had committed genocide. This belief would inspire the world to loathe the Serbs and would give the West a pretext for military intervention, Mr. Milosevic said http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E3D61638F93BA1575AC0A9649C8B63>

7 posted on 07/23/2008 7:52:48 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: Democrat_media
framed the Christian Serbs

Ah, the myth that Serbia is a "Christian nation."

Serbia is an atheist nation with a small Christian minority. Although it's true that most Serbs had Christian grandparents.

Months after the bombing has ceased, United Nations and European Union investigations have bolstered what critics had argued: NATO's estimates of Serbian genocide against the Kosovars were greatly overblown

Karadzic is not charged with crimes committed in Kosovo in the late '90s, but crimes committed in Bosnia in the early '90s.

Mr. Milosevic, the leader of Serbia at the time, said the people really responsible for the mass killings were French intelligence operatives, Muslim officials from Bosnia and mercenaries

LOL! And the Masons, and Opus Dei, and the Illuminati, and the Elders of Zion . . .

Heaven knows that Slobodan Milosevic was a man of spotless character who had no motivation to lie! ROTFLMAO!

8 posted on 07/23/2008 8:01:05 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

Go read your Koran.


9 posted on 07/23/2008 8:01:54 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: wendy1946

Nice post from a Marxist site. Do you have any other cool links promoting proletarian revolution?


10 posted on 07/23/2008 8:02:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Democrat_media
Go read your Koran.

Don't really have any convincing arguments to support your position, I see.

11 posted on 07/23/2008 8:04:47 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: STONEWALLS
the role of Horatio-at-the-Bridge

Horatio massacred women and children? I must have an expurgated edition of Lord Macaulay.

12 posted on 07/23/2008 8:06:59 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
Go read your Koran.

You know people get killed in war.So now you Democrats and Muslims want to try people for killing in a war. That is the joke that you should laugh at you Islamic. Muslims started that war which is part of a lager war Islam/Muslims have been waging against the Serbians since the 12th Century.Read history.

Where are the mass graves of 100,000 “civilian” or any Muslims that the Clinton said the Serbs supposedly murdered?

Yes Clinton and the world Marxist Media lied about that but they are telling the truth about everything else the "evil" Serbs did to the Angelic Albanian Muslims the Serbs were at WAR with.

Muslims have always been the instigators in war and genocide.

13 posted on 07/23/2008 8:07:58 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: Democrat_media
Muslims have always been the instigators in war and genocide.

To be fair, the Communists were athiests and the Nazis were mixed up in norse occultism, but your point is well taken. People die in war, and we joined the wrong side in that one. Eventually, that is something we will pay for when the jihadist murderers start using Kosovo as a safe haven, if they haven't already.
14 posted on 07/23/2008 8:13:42 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Bokababe

ping


15 posted on 07/23/2008 8:18:07 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: wideawake
You can pick your own site(s) for the story of Trnopolje, or do google searches on 'trnopolje' and 'Deichman':

http://tinyurl.com/6a4sqx

The law of averages says half of what you see will be suitably right-wing.

The official version of the story requires the reader to believe that somebody operating a death camp would have invited a British television crew in to do a documentary. Kind of like:

"Herr Eichman? We're seeing rumors to the effect that the German government is operating death camps at Auschwicz, Belsen Bergen, Sobibor and a handful of other such sites and would like to send reporters and a film crew over to investigate this and do a documentary for the BBC, and were wondering if you might be so kind as make the necessary arrangements..."

Having a hard time picturing that you say? Try asking yourself why you'd have any easier time believing such a fairytale when Serbia and Bosnian Serbs are involved....

16 posted on 07/23/2008 8:25:58 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Democrat_media
You know people get killed in war.

Especially those dangerous toddlers and grandmothers.

So now you Democrats and Muslims want to try people for killing in a war.

Do you understand that there are laws of war? One of them being that you are not allowed to massacre unarmed noncombatants just because you don't like them?

That is the joke that you should laugh at you Islamic. Muslims started that war which is part of a lager war Islam/Muslims have been waging against the Serbians since the 12th Century.Read history.

I see. So the breakup of Yugoslavia was all a Muslim plot.

Is Slovenia a Muslim country? Because, in reading history, I see that Slovenia was the first country to declare its independence from Yugoslavia.

Presumably you believe Croatia, the next country to leave, is also a Muslim nation as well.

Where are the mass graves of 100,000 “civilian” or any Muslims that the Clinton said the Serbs supposedly murdered?

I don't recall any US administration asserting that 100,000 civilians were buried in mass graves. It is an established fact that 17,000 bodies have been pulled from mass graves in Bosnia - including at Crni Vrh. That's one place you might start looking.

Yes Clinton and the world Marxist Media

I see, so the Marxist media misrepresented Slobodan Milosevic.

That's why professed Marxist Alexander Cockburn of Counterpunch is Milosevic's preeminent English-speaking apologist.

That's why Living Marxism was the largest magazine in the UK to campaign against the Bosnian separatists.

Your hero Milosevic, by the way, was the leader of the Serbian League of Communists and the founder of the Serbian Socialist Party. No Marxism there, eh?

everything else the "evil" Serbs did to the Angelic Albanian Muslims the Serbs were at WAR with. Muslims have always been the instigators in war and genocide.

No one has to claim that the Albanians are angels to realize that Milosevic, Karadzic, Mladic and their friends and collaborators aren't angels either.

I'll also point out that a third of Albanians aren't Muslims and that as many Albanians attend church on Sundays as Serbians do - even though there are three times as many Serbs as Albanians.

17 posted on 07/23/2008 8:32:37 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wendy1946
The official version of the story requires the reader to believe that somebody operating a death camp

Trnopolje, as filmed by ITN, was not claimed to be a "death camp" by ITN. It was a detention camp where thousands of people were being held against their will without sufficient food or shelter and without being charged with any crime.

The administrators of Trnopolje invited the camera crew to videotape certain portions of the facility to demonstrate that no executions were taking place at the camp, that the people at the camp were not being ill-treated, etc. One ITN cameraman surreptitiously filmed footage that the administrators did not want them to film and ITN put it on the news.

I would point out that the camp administrators - being former Communist apparatchiks under the Yugoslavian regime - did not realize in the early 1990s that the kind of interment situation that Communists thought of as generous and commodious would be considered horrific by American, British, French and Italian TV viewers. They probably believed that the conditions were OK and nothing to be ashamed of.

As soon as the media firestorm following ITN's footage began, the camp was closed down and its inmates relocated.

The magazine Living Marxism later claimed in an article that ITN had invented the whole thing and staged the footage - and they were successfully sued for libel by ITN. All Trnopolje skeptic sites, no matter how they identify themselves ideologically, rely upon the original, libelous Living Marxism article for their arguments and claims.

What was going on a Trnopolje was illegal, immoral and horrible. It cannot be justified.

18 posted on 07/23/2008 8:46:54 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

The world Marxist media AND Democrat President Clinton did say that the Serbs murdered 100,000 Albanians, proof :http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1532010/posts

So where are the mass graves of this “genocide” of 100,000.Provide proof.

Muslims killed their own and Albanian Muslims killed Christian Serb Children and Grandmothers and Clinton bombed and killed Serb Christian children and Christian Serb grandmothers. So you want to try Clinton too? What about the U.S. bombings of civilians in Dresden Germany and the nuclear annihilation of 100,000 civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Want to try Truman too? I don’t for that except I want to try those 2 Marxists Clinton and Truman for trying to impose government healthcare and socialism on the American people . War is hell. There are no rules in war. but the Serbs didn’t commit any genocide and you and your propaganda sites can’t prove that there are mass graves like the media and Clinton said there were because where else are you going to bury 100,000 murdered civilians?


19 posted on 07/23/2008 9:02:23 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Socialism will destroy a country economically. why dems & Mccain for Socialism?)
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To: STONEWALLS
I don't think Western civilization has the will to stop it. They may kill a few muzzies, here and there and claim their winning the war. But the muzzies will just keep coming while Western civilization continues to babble about human rights and diversity.
20 posted on 07/23/2008 9:05:34 AM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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