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Did Obama make a mistake? ( In appearing to negotiate with Maliki in Iraq )
AC360 Newsroom ^ | David Gergen

Posted on 07/22/2008 9:45:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hello everyone - tried to post a blog earlier but I am afraid that it got lost in the system - perhaps it was eaten by that dog!

Anyway, to be brief, was trying to say tonight on air that I welcome the Obama trip overseas - and hope it sets a precedent for all future candidates. At the same time, as an old-fashioned institutionalist who was strongly shaped by working in the White House, I believe that whether a President is right or wrong on policy, we have only one President at a time and he must be the chief negotiator with other countries, especially in a time of war.

It is not clear that Senator Obama was trying to negotiate with Maliki - probably just the opposite - but in issuing that statement after the meeting, he left himself open to the charge that he was.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; iraq; iraqsurge; obama; obamavisit; wot
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1 posted on 07/22/2008 9:45:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
H/T to Flopping Aces:

The Coronation Hasn’t Taken Place Yet Mr. Obama

Posted by: Curt @ 8:54 am in Barack Obama, MSM Bias

D avid Gergan believes Obama made another big mistake with this trip oversea’s by negotiating with our allies. Something the CIC is only allowed to do:

Video at the FA Link...

2 posted on 07/22/2008 9:48:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m starting to think McCain shouldn’t really say too much during this campaign and just let Obama’s mouth cause his own implosion.


3 posted on 07/22/2008 9:48:21 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes, he made a mistake. But he made a mistake out of ignorance and not malicious intent. He just has no clue how these international communications and negotiations are handled.


4 posted on 07/22/2008 9:48:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

David WHO!!!


5 posted on 07/22/2008 9:49:17 AM PDT by geo40xyz (BE PREPARED: Rotate the ammo, food supplies, water, gas etc. Update the list:-() No new debt..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama hasn’t spent in hour in the Senate in years, but now he using his job with taxpayers money to fund a massive campaign. This is not a Congress Fact Finding mission. I demand reimbursement for this nonsense.


6 posted on 07/22/2008 9:52:07 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
and hope it sets a precedent for all future candidates.

I think it's a disgusting, and thinly veiled, attempt to campaign for office.

Quite frankly, I am not surprised he would stoop to such tactics.
7 posted on 07/22/2008 9:52:31 AM PDT by papasmurf
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To: Slapshot68
The Media will cover for Obama...I can't post this but it is relevant:

Is the Media Trying to Elect Obama?

by Dee Dee Myers July 21, 2008, 5:15 PM

The Project for Excellence in Journalism has some figures....and the answer is YES!

8 posted on 07/22/2008 9:53:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Grampa Dave; tubebender

fyi


9 posted on 07/22/2008 9:56:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: abb

fyi


10 posted on 07/22/2008 9:58:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obama made a mistake two years back. He went to Iraq and never even stopped in Afghanistan!! So now he's backtracking in that transgression also...Excepting that he recently said that Karzai should get off his duff (Out of his bunker) and do something.

Obama is seriously out of touch with reality. You can see his brain swaying in the breeze. I really think he's losing it.

I don't think it was ever his real intention to go for Prez in 2008...I think it was 2016..He's unprepared in every way...

An orator and a communist...and nothing more.

11 posted on 07/22/2008 10:00:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Will88
"But he made a mistake out of ignorance and not malicious intent."

Are you sure about that? Remember, this is the same guy who sat in a church pew for 20 years and listened to anti-America hate speech. I find it hard to believe it wasn't done out of spite for this country and President Bush.

12 posted on 07/22/2008 10:02:34 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: papasmurf

Of course it is a campaign trip. Why else would he repaint the plane with his campaign logo if he was just on a fact finding mission for Congress? He needs to be called out on this. This is also a great way for him to avoid debating John McCain. I see many more fact finding missions in his immediate future.


13 posted on 07/22/2008 10:03:37 AM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSL21745083?sp=true

Obama didn’t raise his troop
plan with Maliki-Baghdad

Reuters, by Staff

BAGHDAD - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did not raise his plan to withdraw troops from Iraq within 16 months in his talks on Monday with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, the Iraqi government’s spokesman said. “This issue, we do not discuss ... ,” spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told reporters when asked if Obama had brought up the 16-month timeframe.


14 posted on 07/22/2008 10:16:59 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: mass55th

“Remember, this is the same guy who sat in a church pew for 20 years and listened to anti-America hate speech. I find it hard to believe it wasn’t done out of spite for this country and President...”

I think those are different situations. He was just being himself while sitting in those pews for 20 years, gaining some street cred. But in sticking his nose into these international matters, I do think he is too ignorant to know how to observe proper diplomacy and protocol, and also too ignorant to know how to intentionally ignore proper protocol. He’s just winging it, or going on instincts that are usually poor.

He’s trying to appear thoughtful and responsible. He was talking about his “good judgment” this morning. And his more troops in Afghanistan is designed to look responsible on national defense while still sticking with his withdraw from Iraq position which he has really staked out and would look damned foolish if he abandoned it.


15 posted on 07/22/2008 10:26:48 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Sacajaweau
See this thread:

Obama Press Conference on Foxnews

He was NOT a Golden Tongued Orator,...no teleprompter....

16 posted on 07/22/2008 10:26:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

any public photo ops weren’t negotiations. When Hussein negotiates, he’ll begin the talks with all the “In the name of Allah the merciful and compassionate” preamble.


17 posted on 07/22/2008 10:28:09 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
His voice is cracking.

He can't snow the world after all.

There is an oh crap moment coming.

18 posted on 07/22/2008 10:33:06 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

See link at #16....


19 posted on 07/22/2008 10:38:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
President Bush should speak about this bastard and what he is doing.
20 posted on 07/22/2008 11:05:45 AM PDT by angcat (Obama is Pimping Bushs ride)
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