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Victory in Iraq
NY Sun.com ^ | 7/18/2008 | editorial

Posted on 07/22/2008 2:56:07 AM PDT by shove_it

Surveying the Iraq debate here, it's understandable if the average voter is confused. Heck, it seems as if even the presidential candidates are confused. Just as Senator Obama appeared to be walking back his primary season embrace of retreat, he gives a speech this week affirming his old 16-month deadline for withdrawal. Just as Iraq's American trained army wins four straight battles, Prime Minister Maliki publicly calls for the Yanks to go home. And just after President Bush replaced the Centcom commander who sought to deplete forces in Iraq to send them to Afghanistan, the Pentagon appears to be doing just that. Even the steadfast Senator McCain now says he wants to send three brigades to the Afghan front, anticipating he will draw from the pool of troops returning home from Iraq.

So what is the source of all this confusion? One word: victory. America won, and Al Qaeda, the Ba'athists, and the Iranians lost. Nineteen months ago, when President Bush announced his new strategy for Iraq, very few people predicted that General Petraeus and our military would prevent what appeared to be a certain civil war, or guessed that our Marines and GIs in Anbar would find tribal sheiks who would displace Al Qaeda from their fiefdom in western Iraq. Now provincial elections for this year and federal ones for 2009 are on schedule. Today the Iraqi military, which two years ago was corrupt and infiltrated with terrorists, wins battles in Basra against Shiite criminal gangs affiliated with Moqtada al Sadr. There is a joke going around Basra that the Iraqi military is willing to offer training to the British forces who abandoned that fight in 2006.

The Iraqi government has met all but two of the political benchmarks ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flipflop; foreignpolicy; obama; raq; victory
I Googled 'Iraq+vivtory' and this is the only item I could find resembling news from a MSM source. Did we win a major victory in the WOT and it's not news?
1 posted on 07/22/2008 3:09:01 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

Iraq will eventually fall back to the Saddam days. A dictator will come along and things will be “middle east” normal again.


2 posted on 07/22/2008 3:13:51 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: shove_it
very few people predicted that General Petraeus and our military would prevent what appeared to be a certain civil war

I recall numerous MSM sources saying Iraq was already undergoing a civil war, it just wasn't being reported. So don't hold your breath waiting for them to declare victory--that will only come ten minutes after Obama takes office.

3 posted on 07/22/2008 3:14:13 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (American secret agent in enemy territory (Cambridge, MA))
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To: shove_it

Interestingly, Obama said that while in Iraq he ‘might meet with General Patraeus if he (Obama), had time’. Arrogance beyond belief. The MSM will ignore our victory in Iraq until and unless Obama wins. Then he (and the dems, who’ve done nothing but commit treason, undermining the war effort and the troops), will be crowned as the one who made it all happen. They should rot in youknowwhere.


4 posted on 07/22/2008 3:17:46 AM PDT by hershey
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To: shove_it

bump


5 posted on 07/22/2008 3:26:21 AM PDT by Skooz (Property taxes are immoral)
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The Democrats must not be allowed to seize political credit for a victory they've tried to prevent from happening for years. If there's any one who can be accused of prolonging the war, its them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 07/22/2008 3:39:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Then he (and the dems, who’ve done nothing but commit treason, undermining the war effort and the troops), will be crowned as the one who made it all happen. They should rot in youknowwhere.

Yes, just as when after the Berlin Wall came down, suddenly they were all anti-Soviet Cold Warriors! Hypocrites and back-stabbers.

7 posted on 07/22/2008 4:02:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Which is why we need a long term presence to help grow this infant into a working Democracy. Not like Pelosi’s Politburo, but a free and open Democracy.

Pray for W and Our Troops

8 posted on 07/22/2008 5:20:43 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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... Afghanistan, a front we are now losing as evidence by the daring Taliban raid this month on an American forward operating base, and Iraq...

WRONG! It was not a FOB. Story here.

"If there’s no combat outpost to abandon, there’s no position to abandon," he said. "It’s a bunch of vehicles like we do on patrol anywhere and we hold up for a night and pick up any tactical positions that we have with vehicle patrol bases.

"We do that routinely.... We’re always doing that when go out and stay in an area for longer then a few hours, and that’s what it is. So there is nothing to abandon. There was no structures, there was no COP or FOB or anything like that to even abandon. So, from the get-go, that is just [expletive], and it’s not right."


9 posted on 07/22/2008 7:09:43 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: hershey
Interestingly, Obama said that while in Iraq he ‘might meet with General Patraeus if he (Obama), had time’. Arrogance beyond belief...

Indeed.

Another instance of Obama's arrogance beyond belief was in his much-photographed session with the Iraqi Prime Minister.

Obama, the Prime Minister, and another Iraqi official were standing in front of their chairs in the Iraqi governmental office during the photos.

Obama - NOT the Prime Minister - then indicated with his hand that they were all to sit down!!!

This was a clumsy breach of common etiquette, and significantly so at the foreign affairs level.. A guest does NOT direct his or her host on what to do...

Any person with a minimum sense of propriety would almost instinctively know that it was the host's position to indicate when such a group would, in this case, sit down.

Arabs would immediately observe this.

And the left speaks of American arrogance!

Obama at the core is immature and absolutely devoid of Presidential qualities.

10 posted on 07/22/2008 8:11:47 AM PDT by mtntop3
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