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A dash of lime -- a new twist that may cut CO2 levels back to pre-industrial levels
Science Codex ^ | July 21, 2008

Posted on 07/21/2008 9:28:27 AM PDT by Abathar

Scientists say they have found a workable way of reducing CO2 levels in the atmosphere by adding lime to seawater. And they think it has the potential to dramatically reverse CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere, reports Cath O'Driscoll in SCI's Chemistry & Industry magazine published today.

Shell is so impressed with the new approach that it is funding an investigation into its economic feasibility. 'We think it's a promising idea,' says Shell's Gilles Bertherin, a coordinator on the project. 'There are potentially huge environmental benefits from addressing climate change – and adding calcium hydroxide to seawater will also mitigate the effects of ocean acidification, so it should have a positive impact on the marine environment.'

Adding lime to seawater increases alkalinity, boosting seawater's ability to absorb CO2 from air and reducing the tendency to release it back again.

However, the idea, which has been bandied about for years, was thought unworkable because of the expense of obtaining lime from limestone and the amount of CO2 released in the process.

Tim Kruger, a management consultant at London firm Corven is the brains behind the plan to resurrect the lime process. He argues that it could be made workable by locating it in regions that have a combination of low-cost 'stranded' energy considered too remote to be economically viable to exploit – like flared natural gas or solar energy in deserts – and that are rich in limestone, making it feasible for calcination to take place on site.

Kruger says: 'There are many such places – for example, Australia's Nullarbor Plain would be a prime location for this process, as it has 10 000km3 of limestone and soaks up roughly 20MJ/m2 of solar irradiation every day.'

The process of making lime generates CO2, but adding the lime to seawater absorbs almost twice as much CO2. The overall process is therefore 'carbon negative'.

'This process has the potential to reverse the accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere. It would be possible to reduce CO2 to pre-industrial levels,' Kruger says.

And Professor Klaus Lackner, a researcher in the field from Columbia University, says: 'The theoretical CO2 balance is roughly right…it is certainly worth thinking through carefully.'

The oceans are already the world's largest carbon sink, absorbing 2bn tonnes of carbon every year. Increasing absorption ability by just a few percent could dramatically increase CO2 uptake from the atmosphere.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; algoreswetdream; climatechange; coastalenvironment; environment; globalwarming; oceans
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That would take a lot of limestone, and a lot of capital.

I guess we now have another excuse to tell AlGore to go pound sand...

1 posted on 07/21/2008 9:28:28 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

One useful definition of insanity might be: searching for solutions to non-problems.


2 posted on 07/21/2008 9:31:49 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Abathar
Scientists first need gain a rudimentary understanding of the atmosphere, then they can start tinkering with it. Maybe in 250 years or so.
3 posted on 07/21/2008 9:31:52 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Abathar

Not only that, but I guarantee an unintended consequence would come from this.


4 posted on 07/21/2008 9:32:14 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: Abathar

...to pound limestone IN to sand...


5 posted on 07/21/2008 9:32:33 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Vanbasten

Increased alkalinity is, no doubt, bad for the whales...


6 posted on 07/21/2008 9:33:46 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Abathar

These people scare the hell out of me. They have no idea what the Earth will do in two weeks, much less two years or two decades, but they want to lay waste to natural processes out of sheer chutzpah.


7 posted on 07/21/2008 9:34:08 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!)
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To: SamuraiScot

Very well put...


8 posted on 07/21/2008 9:34:13 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Abathar

And if we then add Tequila...!


9 posted on 07/21/2008 9:34:47 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks
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To: Abathar

One pleasant side effect: pre-marinated sea bass.


10 posted on 07/21/2008 9:37:34 AM PDT by hsrazorback1 (To get what you had, do what you did.)
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To: Vanbasten

Global cooling by reducing co2...fish kills due to dumping all that lime, declining vitality in the worlds plants and trees due to reduced co2...I can think of all sorts issues. Now the use of lime in a power plant bubbler scrubbing system before gasses escape might be an interesting concept....could something like that be put into cars and trucks?


11 posted on 07/21/2008 9:38:52 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Abathar
That would take a lot of limestone, and a lot of capital.

Plus the cost of unintended consequences.
12 posted on 07/21/2008 9:39:27 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: DManA
Scientists first need gain a rudimentary understanding of the atmosphere, then they can start tinkering with it. Maybe in 250 years or so.

Amen to that! I don't think we want to go around messing with the ecosystem that God himself created!

Drill here, drill now, pay less!

13 posted on 07/21/2008 9:40:10 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Abathar
It would be interesting to see what the current calcium levels are in Sea water compared to x years ago. There are places where shells were dumped by the original People, or by colonists.

Coral and shellfish remove calcium and CO2 from water to make their calcium carbonate shells.

Do clams have thicker or thinner shells lately?

14 posted on 07/21/2008 9:44:21 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon

I guess there are people who would know that, I happen to not be one of them.


15 posted on 07/21/2008 9:47:49 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

New CCC effort.
Pick, shovel, donkey cart....

None of these idiots have studied the negative effect of “fixing” a non-problem.


16 posted on 07/21/2008 9:49:39 AM PDT by G Larry (Fight B.O. with RIGHT GUARD! Vote McCain!)
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To: mdmathis6

I sure hope not!

Only another a demand on automakers, thereby raising prices.

Also, if what the IPCC has claimed is really true (and I am very skeptical), than less than 1% of the earth’s atmosphere drives climate. And what you said may come to pass, global cooling, or even worse bring on an ice age.


17 posted on 07/21/2008 9:49:56 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: Vanbasten

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly...


18 posted on 07/21/2008 9:51:20 AM PDT by ianmb (Canadian Conservative - One of the few, but growing)
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To: Gorzaloon

I know that the clam-farm guys are worried about thinner shells. But that may just be from listening to the alarmist news and not related to actual observed thicknesses.


19 posted on 07/21/2008 9:51:28 AM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Abathar
They say we can't drill our way out of the oil crisis but apparently we can mine our way out of the nonexistent global warming crisis.

Total lunacy, no matter how you slice it.

20 posted on 07/21/2008 9:52:04 AM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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