Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 07/21/2008 8:26:32 AM PDT by saminfl
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I was thinking more along the lines of buying stock in the companies that purport to sell offsets and fulfill them. The ones that plants the actual trees, or buy up tracts of land for wind farms. During the intermnet boom, people didn't go out and buy internets, they bought stock in Cisco and Netscape and AOL.
I'm not sure how it works, but some of the newer ethanol and bio fuel plants are so efficient, that they are generating "carbon tax credits" (which are worth $30 each) which directly increases their bottom line financial earnings.
This is really ticking off the Gore-Bull warming pundits, because they were expecting these companies to BUY carbon offsets, not produce them for profit.
They didn't expect American capitalists to figure out a way to tuen it into a money maker, thus keeping American dollars in America.
There goes my plans for a Retirement European trip. Screw them all! After all, there is no more Europe.
That was my wife's first comment.
The primary evidence that CO2 and the greenhouse effect have anything to do with raising global temperature is missing entirely. It isn't there.
No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)
That is a short and easily understandable article showing the plain truth. The hinge pin that links global temperature to the greenhouse effect is missing. It is easily measurable and hundreds of probes have done so.
I think you are correct as far as the airline not intentionally trying to dupe anyone. But, as far as I am concerned, that Sustainable Travel organization is certainly trying to dupe everyone. They do not list one thing they are going to use the money for. I suspect all the dollars are going into keeping the organization's executives living the lifestyle they want to live.
“Actual carbon taxes would (will?) be in the order of $100/ton CO2 — which would mean paying 3 or 4 times the amounts mentioned in the “choices”. The warmists want to lull people into thinking that getting “off oil” will be relatively painless.
(BTW, I didn’t just pull the $100 figure from the air. Here, in Canada, our federal Liberal party is promising a tax of $40/tonne of carbon — that’s over $120/ton CO2. Meanwhile, in BC, we already have a provincial carbon tax that will rise to $30/tonne in 2012 — that’s nearly $100/ton CO2.)”
Don’t you mean that backwards?
C=12; O=16; 12+16+16=48, C=1/4CO2...
The sleight-of-hand that allows this is that biofuels supposedly turn old CO2 into recycled new CO2 rather than additional CO2 added to the ‘burden.’
Carbon offsets goes to plant trees? Trees produce CO2 carbons. The offsets should go to cutting down the trees. Am I right or what?
“Don’t you mean that backwards?”
No, I don’t think so — although you had me going back to the calculator & sharpening my pencil.
A tax of $30/ton Carbon = 30 X 44/12 = $110/ton CO2 (I approximated from there, to take into account the difference between a metric tonne, and a standard ton).
No doubt about it. I put them in the same category as the “fair trade” organizations, which have us all paying extra for coffee, chocolate, etc. in the name of “fair trade”. Of course, these organizations are the sole arbiters of what's “fair” & they take a few points off the top for their endorsement.
If they just took money from moonbats, who believe their fairy tales; I wouldn't mind so much. However, the next step is to pass laws, so that everyone pays.
I am afraid that is going to happen.
Expedia iss doing it too. Needless to say I did NOT purchase any!
Are the screaming greenies buying them or just feeling guilty when they click on past the option to purchase carbon credits pretending to not see them?
Someone should start a thread on DU.
There is still only one ton of carbon; if the tax is on carbon it doesn’t matter what the total weight of CO2 is, now if the tax is on CO2 weight then you are correct.
You are right — I was fixated on a $100/tonne carbon tax cost, because I had just read some articles by local activists calling for that amount of tax here.
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