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Global Warming Scam for Travelers
Continental Airlines web pages ^ | continental airlines

Posted on 07/21/2008 8:26:32 AM PDT by saminfl

Carbon Offsetting Option Continental is committed to promoting environmental responsibility within its culture, which includes helping our customers to respond to concerns about climate change with a carbon offsetting option. We've partnered with Sustainable Travel International ("STI"), a non-profit organization dedicated to providing education and services that support environmental conservation, to provide this option to customers. If you want to leave continental.com to learn more about STI or to purchase carbon offsets from STI for this itinerary, go to sustainabletravelinternational.org/sti_offset_air/flights/c/2.

CO2 Offset Calculation for your Continental Airlines itinerary Total Passengers 1 Flight segments VPS SLC VPS SLC

Flight type Round trip Total flight distance 3178 miles / 5114 km Metric tons CO2 0.4774 Please select one of the following Offset Projects $5.73 International Reforestation Projects Projects to recreate critical forests and provide incentives to protect critical forest land and avoid the cutting of trees. Projects are designed using the standards set forth by the Climate, Community, and Biodiversity Alliance (www.climate-standards.org).

$15.00 U.S. Renewable Energy Projects Renewable energy projects such as wind farms that are used to generate clean energy in the western U.S. Bonneville Environmental foundation provides STI with Green-e certified (www.green-e.org), 100% renewable green tags for this program.

$16.71 Gold Standard Projects Renewable energy and energy efficiency projects are inspected and validated by Clean Development Mechanism accredited Designated Operational Entities including The Gold Standard (www.cdmgoldstandard.org).

$10.79 Combination of several offset Projects (calculated based on 25% Gold Standard, 25% U.S. Renewable Energy Projects, 50% International Reforestation Projects)

For more information on the Donation Projects (note: a new browser window will pop-up):


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: climatechange; corporateliberalism; environment; globalwarmingscare; grifters; thegreenmenace
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I purchased a ticket on Continental a couple of weeks ago and when I went to their site to verify my seat selections I found the carbon offset words at the bottom of the page. When you go to the URL Continental suggests you get to determine the size of your carbon footprint and then are offered the 4 selections shown.

However, there is no action that I can determine, taken by this organization. It appears it is just a way to collect your money. Go to their website and look for your self.

Does anyone know if the other airlines are doing this? I am through with Continental.

1 posted on 07/21/2008 8:26:32 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: saminfl

Just flew Continental to Amsterdam and KLM to Istanbul. KLM allows to pay a carbon tax.

BUT, this is just the beginning. EuroLand is planning a carbon tax on ALL aircraft landing in Euroland. So, gone will be the voluntary donation. Of course, this will raise tickets on US carriers that are already struggling. Euroland denies that they subsidize their airlines —— but everyone knows there are ways to subsidize an industry without making it blatantly obvious.

So, Continental probably sees the futures.


2 posted on 07/21/2008 8:34:00 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: saminfl

Continental has always pissed me off, to no end.

I love how they used to post little stickers on the side of their planes, visible to the left of the door as you enter the fuselage. They always showed how they were constantly “#1 In Employee Satisfaction”.

I guess they got tired of me asking why they were never #1 in CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, because it looks like they finally removed them.

And, now this.
I’m still not gonna select any of those offset options.
I’m fully committed to ENLARGING my ‘carbon footprint” with a new house, boat, whatever. You name it.


3 posted on 07/21/2008 8:35:12 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: saminfl; wideawake
$16.71 Gold Standard Projects Renewable energy and energy efficiency projects are inspected and validated by Clean Development Mechanism accredited Designated Operational Entities including The Gold Standard (www.cdmgoldstandard.org)

LoL, the goldbugs even found a way into this debate.

4 posted on 07/21/2008 8:41:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: saminfl
From http://www.cdmgoldstandard.org/



The Gold Standard is a certification scheme that recognizes the best projects in the Clean Development Mechanism (CDM), Joint Implementation (JI) and voluntary offset markets. The brand has value because over 44 non governmental organizations endorse the Gold Standard method and many buyers (see marketplace) favor or request Gold Standard credits.

Fully integrated in the the standard CDM procedures, it features three additional, easy-to-manage screens that preserve environmental integrity, bring lower delivery and reputational risks to buyers and developers and help host countries' DNAs to assess contribution to Sustainable Development.

•    Project-type screen
Renewables and energy efficiency only are eligible – for the long-term benefit of the host country and the climate.

•    Additionality screen
Strict guidelines allow sound proof of additionality – leaving no shadow of doubt over the project and the registration process.

•    Sustainabiltiy screen
Identify risks up-front through a comprehensive set of indicators and stakeholder consultation guidelines.

Any DOE will validate both standard CDM and Gold Standard requirements at the same time.

To use the Gold Standard, simply download the Gold Standard Project Design Document and the relevant Project Developer's Manual, located in the Technical Documents section of our website.

The Gold Standard recently received financial support from defra, REEEP and WWF.


5 posted on 07/21/2008 8:43:57 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: saminfl
This shit crap is getting me sick to my stomach.
6 posted on 07/21/2008 8:43:58 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: saminfl

Apparently, there is at least one born every minute.


7 posted on 07/21/2008 8:47:48 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Is this what Obama voters consider change. A change of position on every issue.)
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To: saminfl

What a ripoff. I was offered a carbon offset from a different airline for $1.50! Now that was a deal! I bought 10 and am set for the whole year!!!! Really, what can $1.50 or even $15 buy to counteract the CO2 released from a jet?


8 posted on 07/21/2008 8:51:04 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: saminfl

I booked a flight on Air Canada’s Web site last night, and they offered (not in an attempt to force me to, though) the opportunity to offset my flight by purchasing carbon credits ($11.20 worth). I didn’t check the option.


9 posted on 07/21/2008 8:51:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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I’ve been wondering where the next boom market is going to be. We had microcomputers, pharamceuticals, internet, real estate, mortgages, and now we are moving through energy markets. It appears that the voluntary offsets portion of the economy is poised to explode. The concept of VO may be flawed to those who think, but those who feel want to feel good. VO gives them the means, and they will do their 10% that way. The list given might be a good place to start if people want to invest and increase their carbon footprint at the expense of the feelgoods.


10 posted on 07/21/2008 8:52:55 AM PDT by webheart (I am Webheart, and I approved this post.)
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To: saminfl

They need to provide a “Go Pound Sand” check box on those web forms!


11 posted on 07/21/2008 8:58:43 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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Are these 'carbon offsets' tradable? How much is 1 off-set worth? Can I buy and sell 'carbon offsets' futures?

Might as well make some money on probable bull market.

12 posted on 07/21/2008 9:00:14 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SJSAMPLE
"I’m fully committed to ENLARGING my ‘carbon footprint” with a new house, boat, whatever. You name it."

And these Gore-bull warming alarmists are fully committed to making sure you pay for every inch of it. A carbon tax on every foot of lumber you build your house with, a carbon tax on every HP your outboard produces (doesn't even matter if it's a "clean" 4 cycle) And carbon tax on every gallon of gas it burns.

They'll carbon tax your boat launch membership fee's, your fishing license, your boat trailer license, your boat insurance, and your boat operators permit.

I don't think I need to list everything inside your home that can be considered for carbon taxes, you get the idea now.

It's not about reducing carbon, it's all about taxation.

13 posted on 07/21/2008 9:10:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Always Right
"Really, what can $1.50 or even $15 buy to counteract the CO2 released from a jet?"

Nothing. Besides, CO2 isn't a pollutant.

14 posted on 07/21/2008 9:14:40 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: saminfl
The offsets are low-ball amounts -- designed to make the customer sucker feel good (and to look good to his eco-fascist friends).

The airline is probably not actually trying to dupe anyone -- the price of carbon offsets today is quite low, because the market is still small, and suppliers are still picking the low-lying fruit.

Actual carbon taxes would (will?) be in the order of $100/ton CO2 -- which would mean paying 3 or 4 times the amounts mentioned in the "choices". The warmists want to lull people into thinking that getting "off oil" will be relatively painless.

(BTW, I didn't just pull the $100 figure from the air. Here, in Canada, our federal Liberal party is promising a tax of $40/tonne of carbon -- that's over $120/ton CO2. Meanwhile, in BC, we already have a provincial carbon tax that will rise to $30/tonne in 2012 -- that's nearly $100/ton CO2.)
15 posted on 07/21/2008 9:15:42 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: saminfl

I booked international flights on Expedia recently, and for the first time came across a page before the final review page, which had an option to buy carbon offset.

Domestic flights were something like 10 bucks, while international flights were about $30 if memory serves.

Would love to know where that money goes.

My guess is to some guys pocket who just happens to be laughing.


16 posted on 07/21/2008 9:20:16 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: MarineBrat

LOL!

Couldn’t agree more.


17 posted on 07/21/2008 9:21:34 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: AU72
Are these 'carbon offsets' tradable?

Clearly things are heading that way, there is much talk of some carbon producers buying unused "carbon use" allotments from other companies.

So if I become a non-producing business, can I just sell "my own" carbon credits to other companies?

18 posted on 07/21/2008 9:22:12 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
"Meanwhile, in BC, we already have a provincial carbon tax that will rise to $30/tonne in 2012 -- that's nearly $100/ton CO2.) "

Who pays this, everyone? Is this based on a consumer average? I know the provincial liberal government there is carbon crazy, along with half the moonbats that live there, and have already implemented a carbon tax on gasoline (does that mean gasoline is now except from provincial carbon tax calculations?). As the carbon craze grows, you are going to see a lot of "tax on tax" situations in that province.

Next to be hit is a carbon tax on stumpage fee's charged to lumber companies I'll bet.

Woe be to those who cut down the "carbon sink".

19 posted on 07/21/2008 9:25:40 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
You forgot breathing ;)
20 posted on 07/21/2008 9:27:22 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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