Posted on 07/19/2008 1:54:07 PM PDT by yankeedame
By Jody Thompson,
17/07/2008
(What's this?)American rock star Ted Nugent has followed in Lily Allen's footsteps to be the latest celebrity to comment on the UK's knife crime problem.
However, unlike Lily, he's set to spark controversy with his outrageous views.
An advocate of hunting and gun-ownership rights, Nugent currently serves on the Board of Directors of the National Rifle Association and thinks the problem would stop if Britons were allowed to arm themselves with guns.
Talking mid-set during his gig at London's Indigo venue in the 02 Arena on Monday night, he said: "I understand that London has a knife problem. That's because you took everybody's guns away."
He continued: "If you had a f***ing gun you could shoot the motherf*****s with the knife. Do you need me to explain that to you dumb Limey motherf******? In Detroit, we don't have a knife problem. The knife motherf*****s got a Ted problem."
"'Oooh, he's got a knife, I'll pretend I'm from England'. [Imitates firing a gun]. Take that motherf****r. [Then pretends to call 911]: 'You might wanna bring a dustpan and broom because there's a big puddle of shit on the sidewalk'. That's what you call a deterrent. That motherf****r ain't gonna knife no-one ever again."
It's unlikely anti-knife campaigners are going to take Nugent's ideas seriously however.
As exclusively revealed in The Mirror today, one in five youngsters now claim they or their pals have been threatened with knives in the past year with an explosion of gangs being blamed.
Police figures to be released today are expected to show 25,000 stabbings were committed in England and Wales in the last 12 months.
Ban the knives and spoons because spoons will be the next weapon of choice.......
No, another Freeper from home state of Michigan... bless him with all the Cat Scratch Fever he can get!
He is also a FReeper... won't tell you his username either...
If they win there (as is their stated goal), it will be a “damned” place. At the moment, they are closer to it there than here.
I guess my question is this: What are the British doing about it? If you have positive stories to tell, then tell ‘em.
BTW, I do have an EXC400 in the garage, right next to the ‘girl” bike. Does that meet your “manly” standards? It is interesting that your measure of a truly manly motorcycle is made in Austria. I would have thought that being a British Patriot, you'd be a Triumph guy. Your grandparents may be spinning in their graves.
It sounded kind of “punkish” :) But it’s good regardless. (I looked at your poetry page, I like your taste in poetry. My own favorite is “She Was A Phantom Of Delight”, mainly because I like the way it was quoted in the film “The Sky’s The Limit”, with Joan Leslie and Fred Astaire. What a reason, LOL)
I watch some Brit comedies on PBS on Saturday nights (no, I don’t base my views of Britain-I should say England, where all the shows I’ve seen, are set-on these shows, LOL)—most of them are from the late Eighties/early Nineties. Even that far back, before the war in Iraq, war on terror, etc, when America or Americans are ever mentioned, it’s dripping with condescension, ie, purely to be tolerated as a source of money, and not politely even then.
The episode that always really amuses me is from a really drippy show called “As Time Goes By”—Lionel and Jean go to Los Angeles for some business deal-while there, a crazed man with a gun comes into the office and threatens to shoot everyone there because he was fired. The Americans are all quaking in their shoes, paralyzed with fear-but the fearless Lionel disarms the man with gun. I laughed and laughed at that one.
I couldn’t say why I watch these shows when they are either drippy, or patronising to Americans when we’re mentioned—but I do love “Keeping Up Appearances”, at any rate. Oh, and “’Allo ‘Allo”. That one is hilarious. At least that show is an equal-opportunity insulter, LOL, the writers take the p*ss out of every nationality :D
I must confess...that's not my page. I merely posted the URL to it because that's where I got the words, and I just do that sort of thing out of habit whenever I post anything from an internet source...I like to give credit to others whenever it's appropriate. I apologize if I implied that it was my own.
That being said, I agree that the collection on that page is quite captivating, with several that I had known from before as well as some new ones....all quite interesting in their own ways.
My own favorite is “She Was A Phantom Of Delight”
"She Was a Phantom of Delight"
She was a phantom of delight
When first she gleamed upon my sight;
A lovely Apparition, sent
To be a moment's ornament;
Her eyes as stars of Twilight fair;
Like Twilight's, too, her dusky hair;
But all things else about her drawn
From May-time and the cheerful Dawn;
A dancing Shape, an Image gay,
To haunt, to startle, and way-lay.
I saw her upon a nearer view,
A Spirit, yet a Woman too!
Her household motions light and free,
And steps of virgin liberty;
A countenance in which did meet
Sweet records, promises as sweet;
A Creature not too bright or good
For human nature's daily food;
For transient sorrows, simple wiles,
Praise, blame, love, kisses, tears and smiles.
And now I see with eye serene
The very pulse of the machine;
A Being breathing thoughtful breath,
A Traveler between life and death;
The reason firm, the temperate will,
Endurance, foresight, strength, and skill;
A perfect Woman, nobly planned,
To warm, to comfort, and command;
And yet a Spirit still, and bright,
With something of angelic light.
William Wordsworth
She Was a Phantom of Delight by William Wordsworth
I like the way it was quoted in the film “The Sky’s The Limit”, with Joan Leslie and Fred Astaire. What a reason, LOL)
Whether a worthy poem arrives by record, book, film or stage I think it matters not, providing one's heart is touched or the mind invigorated. You've given me a 'new' movie that I will rent next time I'm at the video store...thank you so very much :-)
In a society ruled by the Constitution of the U.S., law-abiding citizens would welcome the attention that would result from firing a gun in self-defense. Criminals, however, would naturally not welcome such attention.
Even if it were possible to eliminate all guns from society, I would think it would be better for the 'top weapon' be one that offers more advantages to the law-abiding than to criminals, than for it to be one that favors criminals (as do knives).
I believe comments from real people, just as you believe the comments on here. Otherwise you would not react to them. Actually, the Readers' Comments are probably more "real" than the people on here, because they give their names and where they are from. Just do me a favour, and check the Readers' Comments on any paper you choose online whenever a US Story appears in the Press there. You will see it is not just Bad Press, it is mass belief.
No kidding you get a bad press, I would argue for more if this is the reception we get from the average Yank? Or don’t these forums speak for the majority of Americans?
If "Who wins elections" is the measure, obviously not.
We were never close friends but would always say hi or wave. Ted is a rather private person in his personal life.
One of my best friends however was over to his home quite often. He said one morning when he went over to go to breakfast before a fishing trip there was a problem with the gate. They called up to the house and Ted came out to fix it.
He was wearing nothing but his underwear ....and a holster with a 44 mag!
Ted is Ted in real life too!
Actually, it does make one and only one important difference: There is no check on your government passing laws that restrict your rights. For example, Heller simply cannot happen in the UK. Yes, you do have many of the same “rights” as we in the states. However, you also don’t have a strong right to self defense, reasonable expectation of privacy (all those cameras), right to bear arms, etc. In other words, your government can and has simply voted out of existence many of your rights with simple laws. This is all the more ironic in light of the Magna Carta...
“Let the Muzzies have the damned place. The British deserve to lose it.”
I fail to see how this wasn’t personal, given its an attack on my nation that I happen to like. You cannot insult a people and a nation and then claim that such comments don’t relate to me, how exactly do you make an impersonal attack on a man’s heritage?
As for my bikes, I happen to enjoy the ride on a 998. I’m not the blinkered patriot you hope I am by not buying a brilliant piece of machinery just cos its not British. A Triumph is a different tool, and behaves accordingly.
...when America or Americans are ever mentioned, it’s dripping with condescension, ie, purely to be tolerated as a source of money, and not politely even then...
You have no idea how badly we Brits are treated in the US entertainment industry. The perennial bad guy, the foppish Hugh Grant, the socialist appeaser, the cowardly soldiers who ache for an American to sally forth and save the day. And this has been the case since we have had moving pictures in the telly box.
Just watch Saving Private Ryan for the historical faux pas made in reference to the British failures, U-571 and the Americans capture of the Enigma machine (which was actually achieved by a British destroyer, HMS Bulldog), Pearl Harbour and its horrid protrayal of us. This list goes on and on, and isn’t done with the tongue-in-cheek attitude of a Sit-com or satire. Its a blatant attempt to change history by stealing another nations glories, as if trying to make up for a percieved lake of their own.
I once heard on American Forces Ardio, ‘and this is the birthday of Florence Nightingale, a Great American Patriot’.
How many of you even know which conflict that this ‘Great American Patriot’ served through????
Hmmm...
And this is different from the US how exactly?
RE: Historical ignorance
Crimea river...
Nice one.
Any ida why American Forces Radio might want to call Florence Nightingale a ‘Great American Patriot’?
Ignorance isn’t an excuse for mistakes.
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