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Boom times for American pawnbrokers as rich hit hard times(even Rolls-Royce pawned)
Times of London ^ | 07/19/08 | Chris Ayres

Posted on 07/18/2008 10:58:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Boom times for American pawnbrokers as rich hit hard times

Chris Ayres

“I need $3,000,” Tito Vazquez, 45, says as he looks at his gleaming Harley-Davidson motorcycle. “But the economy's a mess right now and my credit cards are all maxed out.”

Which brings him here, to Collateral Lender, a few blocks east of ultra-posh Rodeo Drive, in Beverly Hills. In short, it is a pawn shop. Like most pawn shops in Los Angeles - home to not one but two failed mortgage lenders, Countrywide Financial and IndyMac Bank - it is doing a roaring trade.

For Mr Vazquez, that is not good news: Collateral Lender has so many Harleys it does not have room for any more. The manager sends him to another broker in a different part of town, where with a bit of luck he will be able to get a short-term $3,000 float using his “hog” as collateral. The state-regulated interest rate is likely to be about 7 per cent, although pawn shops have a knack of getting around this by charging other fees.

“I know I'll be coming right back for my Harley,” says Mr Vazquez, who lives an hour from Beverly Hills and needs the cash to pursue an urgent “business opportunity”. “If I wasn't coming back that would be different. I've pawned this bike a few times.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creditcrunch; economy; pawnshop
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1 posted on 07/18/2008 10:58:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Have you pawned anything lately? Ping!


2 posted on 07/18/2008 10:59:03 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
“We haven't had any private jets yet, but we've had a half-million-dollar racing boat, a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, an Emmy, a couple of Grammys, gold records, platinum records, Cartier watches, Rolexes,” Pete says. “This can be a very interesting job.”

LOL.

3 posted on 07/18/2008 11:00:25 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
A pawn shop or a pwned shop? That is the question.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 11:02:28 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: library user
Don't these bastard journalists from the UK love writing about how the wheels are falling off our economy? I think they've pronounced us dead and buried about 3,000 times this year to date.
5 posted on 07/18/2008 11:08:53 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey London, those living in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. How’s that 30% in the past 12 months housing correction going for you over there?


6 posted on 07/19/2008 12:00:27 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Heh.

The difference between a Harley and a Honda:

In hard times, you can ride the Honda to work as you know it will provide reliable transportation. You sell or pawn the Harley because you know it *won’t*.


7 posted on 07/19/2008 12:03:50 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"...an Emmy, a couple of Grammys, gold records, platinum records, Cartier watches, Rolexes,” "

As I've said before, any of these small items can be sold on Ebay for at least three or four times the pittance that pawnbrokers give you. There's just no reason you'd want to sell to a pawnbroker in the age of Ebay unless you need the money immediately. As in, this very second, can't wait even one minute, gotta have the money now, now, now.

Which makes me strongly suspect that the transactions reported in the story have less to do with "the economy" and more to do with various types of white powder and little crystal rocks.

8 posted on 07/19/2008 12:30:08 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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So this rich guy pulls up at a pawn shop near the airport and borrows $100.00 at ten percent per week interest (simple interest) for two weeks. The pan shop owner asks him if he has any collateral and the guy says “sure, keep my rolls royce till I repay you.” “ but do us a favor and run me over to the airport”

So the pawn shop owner agrees the deal. Two weeks later the guy shows back up at the pawn shop and pays off the loan $120.00 (the $100, plus $10 twice).

The pawn shop owner gives him back the keys to the Rolls that has been sitting in his secure compound and says “hey, tell me why a man of your obvious means has to borrow money at my exorbitant rates of interest?”

“that’s easy”, says the Rolls owner, “where else can you park a Rolls Royce securely at the airport for $10.00 a week?”.


9 posted on 07/19/2008 12:41:55 AM PDT by Wil H
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You may joke, but when I was in the Army living in the barracks, we’d do that with our personally owned guns. Company policy stated that our guns had to be kept in the armory. To get them out you had to hunt down the armorer, hunt down the keys and then after an hour or two you’d get it out. Forget it on the weekends. Instead we’d just pawn them for ten bucks and we’d get them out when ever we wanted.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 1:09:52 AM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I guess y’all know where to get a great deal on a used a Harley — At the pawn shop


11 posted on 07/19/2008 2:46:08 AM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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Near Rodeo Drive.:-)
12 posted on 07/19/2008 3:11:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: denydenydeny
...As I've said before, any of these small items can be sold on Ebay for at least three or four times the pittance that pawnbrokers give you.

I am a pawn shop "junkie". I don't think you understand the business. There are many who "sell" their items outright, surely, but most intend to redeem their pawn tickets. But, the reason they are there is because they have no funds and need it NOW!

I have never sold anything, nor pawned. I have BOUGHT lots of great deals. I have an iMac G4 I am typing on, which I bought for $300, when it was almost new. The new one was $1500. I didn't get a box, but it had a hard drive full of software. I bought a 17* G4 Powerbook for $500, when it was a year old. I got a Denon receiver for $200. New, it was almost $1600 from Crutchfield.

I have a Canon 8 mp Powershot Pro 1, for which I paid $120. The new price was around $500. I bought k-rands at a discount, as well.

I was in a shop one day, when a well dressed couple came in. They needed $11000 for payroll that day. They were owners, and a client had bounced a check on them, leaving them with no time to get a bank loan. They pawned her mom's 4.25 ct. diamond ring on Friday, and negotiated a special lower rate. On Monday, it was redeemed with a bank loan.

Their employees needed to get paid, and that was the only way to do it in a timely manner. I do a lot of business with the shop, and the manager related that one incident, among many...

not actual ring...

eBay is not always a good way to go. I listed a Nissan 300ZX, and sold it twice with no payment from either bidder. eBay still wanted almost $300...

Your mileage may vary!

13 posted on 07/19/2008 3:37:56 AM PDT by WVKayaker (NobamaNation, just RNC Abomination... Where's Fred when we need him?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I remember sometimes in January while in the grocery store this guy on the phone talking to someone. He hangs up, turns to his wife and says something like "Remember the awesome wheels SoNSo got for Christmas? He needs to pawn them because he needs money for this month's mortgage." and then he starts on this tirade on how bad the economy is and forcing his friend to pawn the wheels. Meanwhile I can't help myself thinking if the moron needed the expensive wheels to begin with and what were his priorities: mortgage, food or wheels?

This continues to happen, people make bad purchases which they cannot afford from the get go (may that be a house, a Harley or fancy wheels for a fancy ride) and they they cry wolf. I have seen this to be more the case than actually people falling on bad times due to the economy. Being fiscally responsible is a thing of the past for most people, unfortunately!
14 posted on 07/19/2008 4:10:05 AM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Don't these bastard journalists from the UK love writing about how the wheels are falling off our economy? I think they've pronounced us dead and buried about 3,000 times this year to date.

They have to. More and more of their subjects are becoming outraged and disgusted.

They is why their Press is always filled with breathtaking new Medical Advances (That never amount to aything) and the stories get more and more frantic as the NHS kills more and more subjects.

Stories about how "It's worse elsewhere" control the population of North korea very well, so are desperately needed by their current Government.

Expect more stories of "Dangerous America" as their out-of-control drunken yobs and "Asians" kill more and more subjects for idle, bored amusement.

Read the Times and Daily Mail for a week, and you'll see for yourself what's going on, and the reasons for these desperate stories.

15 posted on 07/19/2008 4:20:50 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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as rich hit hard times

Let me fix it:

"..as people who thought they were rich because they landed ass-backward into some money and did absolutely no financial planning hit hard times.."

16 posted on 07/19/2008 4:23:02 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Wil H

LOL!


17 posted on 07/19/2008 4:25:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: bad company

[our personally owned guns]

I haven’t been in the military for a long time but are you saying that you can replace a government issue gun with a personally owned one?


18 posted on 07/19/2008 4:34:26 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: WVKayaker

Im a pawn shop junkie too...Always looking for stuff to buy


19 posted on 07/19/2008 4:35:40 AM PDT by rrrod
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“But the economy's a mess right now and my credit cards are all maxed out.”

let me get this straight, he's GOT a job, but his Credit CARDS are MAXXXED OUT and it's the ECONOMY'S FAULT...

20 posted on 07/19/2008 4:38:41 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -CTHULHU/NYARLATHOTEP'08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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