..DH had it right--GOP voters got it wrong...
Posted on 07/16/2008 9:36:12 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
Why not leave people with their own money instead of a tax credit and then work on reducing the price. Charge illegals for healthcare too.
Years ago it wasn’t this bad. Another thing would be to stop these constant drug commercials for drugs that can only be physician prescribed. We are all sick of them anyway.
Tell drug companies to spend the ad savings on reducing the price of drugs and research..
I don’t think either side is much better than the other, just a little different. That’s why I’m in the middle.
“Most notably, McCain would allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines, a practice now prohibited,”
Most notably, that was Duncan Hunter’s idea that he pushed in the debates, when he was allowed to speak. McCain is about a year late.
Now if we can just get McCain to adopt Hunter’s platform on China, Iran, Mexico, illegal aliens, US sovereignty, military buildup, taxes, etc we’d be getting somewhere.
Same time period!!!! TET Vets!
You, me and about 500,000 other guys.
My wife has worked in health care for many years and tells me stories that just make me shake my head in disbelief.
Hospitals pass on cost of indigents and illegals to paying customers.
County hospital districts soak the taxpayer to makeup for indigents and illegals who skip out on payment.
Doctors overcharge to overcome the relentless nitpicking of the insurance companies.
Doctors pass along the outrageous cost of malpractice insurance premiums to the patient.
Medical suppliers charging premium prices for their products. Then hospitals tack on huge margins to those same products.
Pharmaceutical companies overcharging for many of their products in the U.S. that many times are found much cheaper just across the borders of Canada or Mexico.
The whole system is just racked with middle men, overcharges, over billings, underpayments and on and on and on.
The consumer ends up getting the shaft.
Stories of $14000.Chemotherapy drips, pills that cost twenty dollars a tablet, hospitals charging $6.00 for a can of ensure, $40.00 for a bottle of Tylenol.
Elderly couples life savings decimated due to health care cost relating to a spouse with cancer, another couples out of pocket expenses reaching $4800. a month (with insurance coverage).
Somethings got to change. No one should have to worry about the care their getting based on the ability to pay. That's just pitiful.
Hmmmm, it does have a ring of familiarity to it. But in fairness, McCain was too busy with Shamnesty and trampling all over the first amendment with McFeingold to notice health care needed addressed.
“Now if we can just get McCain to adopt Hunter’s platform on China, Iran, Mexico, illegal aliens, US sovereignty, military buildup, taxes, etc we’d be getting somewhere.”
Yes, well, do let me know when Hell freezes over, please.
Sounds like he’s moving towards a CAFE plan. A step at a time. This is good.
Pre-existing conditions sure are a problem.
Up until now, a 58 years of age and healthy as a bull moose almost the whole time, I seldom had to deal with health issues.
Now I’m about to scream bejeesus.
For my heart, unbeknownst to my naive self, was covered with clogged arteries much like Tim Russert’s. I had to have an emergency quadruple bypass surgery and I am learning something new every day.
Now we DO have health insurance via husband’s employer, but dear Lord they have a $4,000 out of pocket for hospital, a $400 deductible annually, a $20 co-pay for doctor’s visits and a really crappy prescription plan.
Still and so the cost of my hospitalization and surgery has run, so far, to almost one hundred thousand big bucks and those small costs listed above are chump change I know.
But every time a doc visits your bedside in the hospital it’s considered a “visit” and as one whose only prescriptions were only antibiotics a time or two and birth control pills back when I was trying to control my births, I’ve been flabberghasted by the cost of drugs.
In the end all of this is going to cost me at least 5 grand, maybe closer to 10 grand. This is WITH so-called “good” insurance.
But bitch though I may, the bigger terror for me is insuring that I keep health care coverage until I am covered by medicare. For husband’s company instituted a new rule that employed spouses of employees MUST use their company’s health plan, if applicable (which it’s not with me). The company continues to provide health coverage for employees’ spouses uneligble for coverage anywhere else but I wonder how long they’ll continue this.
They also have gone “self-insured” although most companies going self-insured have some sort of stop-loss bracket. My husband’s been hearing every damn day how much my surgery has cost the company and I bite nails that they might fire him or discontinue covering spouses ineligible for coverage altogether. Husband pays $85 a week for “husband/wife” coverage and he’s been working for the company five years, during which neither one of us has filed for one thin dime.
It’s not like it’s for free or anything.
You got to know no one’s going to hire me full time with my medical history cause I’d be a real pull on a company’s health coverage.
I used to handle health insurance and all that for various companies. I know how it works behind the scenes. My point being, so-called vaunted “private” health care is fraught with dangers, do not be fooled.
Which makes me reconsider how health insurance is handled in this country, oh yes it does. While I’m not quite a liberal on the matter, my mind is quite open and of a different mindset on the matter. There’s nothing quite as terrifying as needing an operation that you may live and biting your tongue that you’ll get what you need.
No, I have no answers but I’m listening. I’m not in favor of government controlled health care, No I’m not. In fact, I consider myself the luckiest woman in the world because I got first rate health care and even with those large deductibles that I hadn’t much thought about it, I got a real bargain.
But I know fear and I know that living with a timebomb in your chest, a “pre-existing” condition that might leave me in the cold, is something no one should have to live with. Husband and I had what some would consider excellent health care and so far, yeah, so good.
Do not be fooled that private health insurance has the answers to everything.
Yet again, I don’t have answers, just a different perspective that can only come from personal and up-close experience.
Obviously, no one has a perfect solution, otherwise, we’d be doing it. I’m concerned like the other guy here, that there may end up a lot of fly-by-nite policies around that are affordable, but then they let you go. Once someone gets a long-term illness, and they are let go, it will be nearly impossible to get picked-up again, except at a huge cost.
..DH had it right--GOP voters got it wrong...
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