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Immigration Agents ‘Terrorize’ Communities, Obama Says
Cybercast News Service ^ | July 15, 2008 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 07/15/2008 12:21:41 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(CNSNews.com) – While speaking Sunday at the national convention of the National Council of La Raza, a Latino advocacy group that favors a “pathway to citizenship” for illegal aliens, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said federal immigration agents “terrorized” and divided families during immigration raids.

“The system isn't working,” said Obama, “when 12 million people live in hiding, and hundreds of thousands cross our borders illegally each year; when companies hire undocumented immigrants instead of legal citizens to avoid paying overtime or to avoid a union; when communities are terrorized by ICE immigration raids; when nursing mothers are torn from their babies; when children come home from school to find their parents missing; when people are detained without access to legal counsel.”

But Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are not out to terrorize anyone, ICE spokeswoman Pat Reilly told Cybercast News Service, while stressing that she was not speaking about the comments of any individual, but only in general terms regarding criticism of ICE.

“Raids”– a term Reilly said she does not like – are not random, she said, but are operations that are always ordered by a federal judge or federal prosecutor through a warrant.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; obama

1 posted on 07/15/2008 12:22:01 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This man needs to keep talking. His numbers are down seven points and he is losing his contributors.

Let Obama keep talking. What a nit-wit.


2 posted on 07/15/2008 12:24:59 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
when nursing mothers are torn from their babies

Obama would have those babies aborted.

3 posted on 07/15/2008 12:28:53 PM PDT by donna ( I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“The system isn't working,” said Obama, “when 12 million people live in hiding, and hundreds of thousands cross our borders illegally each year; when companies hire undocumented immigrants instead of legal citizens to avoid paying overtime or to avoid a union; when communities are terrorized by ICE immigration raids; when nursing mothers are torn from their babies; when children come home from school to find their parents missing; when people are detained without access to legal counsel.”

Step one: Fix this by guarding the border - hundreds of thousands cross our borders illegally each year

Step two: Fix this by punishing employers of illegals - when companies hire undocumented immigrants instead of legal citizens to avoid paying overtime or to avoid a union;

Then you have a huge reduction in the other problems. Ignoring the border and granting amnesty to those already here isn't a solution. It is just kicking the problem down to the next generation when it will be much worse as was done in the failed 1986 immigration law.

4 posted on 07/15/2008 12:32:17 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does this also mean that the DEA and other federal agencies TERRORIZE neighborhoods when they do drug raids. You break the law it should terrorize you when the fed comes.


5 posted on 07/15/2008 12:32:30 PM PDT by DrewsMum (www.reportillegals.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama, you idiot ... You cannot have both a welfare state and open borders at the same time. The U.S.A. will be overrun with tens of millions of illegals from all over the world during your administration, essentially overthrowing the rule of law and established order. Of course, some say this is Obama’s intent.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 12:33:02 PM PDT by bimbo
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To: donna
He must be talking about the community of Postville, IA, where over 80 percent of the packing house employees had someone else's Social Security number...
7 posted on 07/15/2008 12:34:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe after Obama bombs Pakistan, he’ll bomb ICE facilities in Texas.

Get them terrorists.


8 posted on 07/15/2008 12:40:36 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ll tell you what “terrorizes communities” you assh*le!

It’s Mexican active military personnel dressed in full assault gear and disguised as Phoenix police officers shooting up neighborhoods with automatic weapons as they carry out the Mexican Drug war in America’s cities...

THAT’s what terrorizes communities!


9 posted on 07/15/2008 12:45:22 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is really irresponsible rhetoric. If he wants to criticize enforcement policy, that’s fine, but saying that law enforcement enforcing laws on the books are “terrorizing”, i.e., equating them to lawless terrorists, is simply reprehensible and should not be the words any respectable politician should utter.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 12:47:45 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Hey Obama, come on over to Arizona. We have a sheriff in Maricopa County that would love to have a little chat with you.
11 posted on 07/15/2008 12:49:59 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Unam Sanctam
"...respectable politician..."

I'm calling the Oxymoron Police.

12 posted on 07/15/2008 12:53:05 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: KarlInOhio
Somewhere in your list of steps needs to be to enforce existing immigration laws by deporting people and by criminally charging those who re-enter. We're seeing lots more deportations and people that return are getting criminal charges when they return. “Criminal aliens” with bad records are looking at serious prison time when they are caught back in this country. Those who haven't been in criminal trouble but who return after being deported will probably end up only getting time served after spending a few months in waiting to go to court, but it's a lot more jail than most of them have ever done in their lives and the majority don't like it one bit. Deport several and several times as many as we deport will leave on their own. During Eisenhower's “operation Wetback” it is estimated that 9 aliens left on their own for every 1 that was deported.
13 posted on 07/15/2008 1:01:53 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

Well said, TKDietz. But let’s add some serious prison time and or fines for the employers hiring and keeping illegals on the job. Without them, the illegal problem would disappear rather quickly. Tell medium sized employers like this one that all owners/corporate officers/board menbers will serve one month in prison for each illegal caught in their employ and the hiring process would suddenly be taken quite seriously. No more of the nonsense about being fooled by a SS card when the owner can’t speak a word of english.


14 posted on 07/15/2008 1:25:40 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Right on Obama’s home turf, the south side of Chicago, mass killings are taking place.
A under- class has evolved and a new Chief of police has been hired.
This new Chief gets the blame for years of failures from Aldermen, Mayor Daley, and Obama as their former neighborhood organizer.
Obama’s neighborhood organizing obviously did not take hold and he now promises change for doing better on a national scale.
15 posted on 07/15/2008 1:57:58 PM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: bimbo

“You cannot have both a welfare state and open borders at the same time.”

Exactly!

This is a simple truth that seems not to have occurred to many of the people opposed to tougher immigration enforcement.

We have finite resources to take care of our own needy citizens with. We simply cannot allow everyone on the planet to come in here and use those up.


16 posted on 07/15/2008 2:16:23 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama calls our sworn ICE agents terrorists, but he wants to give these guys college scholarships.


17 posted on 07/15/2008 2:25:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Oldpuppymax
That's not likely to happen a whole lot since these people pump so much money into political campaigns. They'll do a little bit for show, and then focus on aliens who get in trouble. I'm glad to see them deporting the aliens who get in trouble. I can recall very well seeing lots of illegals plead to some pretty darned serious offenses and walk away without being deported even though ICE knew where they were. Shoot, in many cases they were in jail and ICE had a “hold” on them but wouldn't come pick them up. What they are doing now is a welcome change. I just hope they keep deporting the felons and a fair number of the misdemeanor defendants and charging people with illegal reentry when they return. That will make a big difference. We'll get rid of a lot of the bad guys and several times as many as we deport will end up leaving on their own.

I just spoke to a lady and her three children today who are planning on going to Mexico because her husband is being deported. Two of the children were born here. Their 12 year old son came here at 3 months old and has no recollection of Mexico. The father has been charged with a felony offense for using someone else's name on documents to work. He's in jail with a high bond and an ICE hold, and will probably stay in jail for a couple more months while his case is being worked out. Then he's gone to Mexico and will likely not be allowed to return. Most likely he'd be facing prison time if he sneaks back in. He's never been in trouble before and really does not like it at all in jail. His wife is making arrangements now for them to have a place to live in Mexico. They haven't been there in 12 years. One man is being deported. Four are “self deporting” because of it.

The government isn't really going to go after all these employers though. They'll do a few very public cases, but these politicians are not going to alienate their campaign contributors by really going after employers. In my area the poultry plants recruited all sorts of aliens, packed every chicken plant with illegals. They were promising these people jobs in Mexico, helping them come over and in many cases helping them get false documentation to work. People like Don Tyson of Tyson Foods were in this up to their eyeballs. We gonna start seeing people from the Tyson family going to prison? Hell no. Won't happen. They'll make sacrificial lambs out of people like that Mexican roofer who hired a bunch of illegals there was an article about a couple of days ago. They'll make a few very public raids of factories where no one will really get in a lot of trouble, and things will go on as usual.

18 posted on 07/15/2008 6:51:44 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Caramba! Obama is stealing Juan McCain’s act.


19 posted on 07/15/2008 11:02:01 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham

May they both rot.


20 posted on 07/16/2008 6:22:19 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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